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Am I P or J Person?

I owned a 5 string Squier Jazz bass which I didn't like, but that was because I found out I dislike 5 string basses, not because of the sound of the bass. I currently use the P-Bass I have in my profile picture, and I love how it sounds. For me, I prefer the "growl" of a Precision over a Jazz bass. That being said, I honestly wish I had both at this point, because they're both good basses. I'd stick with the two you have, or get a Jazz to go with the P, and embrace having multiple options, because they're both awesome. :)
 
there are more than 2 kinds of basses

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So, I always love the look on P bass, been dreaming to own one. Before, I have Sire V7. Last year, I bought a Fender P. But, after making band and in a band situation, I rely on the V7 more, which is a Jazz type. She makes me create interesting bass lines more for my original material. I always consider myself as a P person. The question is, am I, deep down, without realizing it, more J person? Should I bought a Fender Jazz next? Lol
Like what you like, and accept it. It's ok to just like one, or both.
 
It is in the nature of J personalities to be indecisive & spontaneous. Unstable as water, you will not excel unless you learn to live in the present, for music too is a child of time, mortal, always returning to the silence from which it issued.
It is the nature of P personalities to be consistent and predictable, brash and unyielding. Stable as rock, you must learn to be softened by the melody of water and the rhythm of the wind.
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Just keep buying Ps and Js. You'll eventually turn out to be a "both" person.

Fender would call me a P person, because both my P and J are built on P shaped bodies with P shaped necks. A body shape that doesn't threaten to fall off a stand I like, and a neck that's big enough for my ginormous hands, I like.

I, however, consider the pickup configuration to be what consists a P or a J. So, if you ask me, I'm a both.
 
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So, I always love the look on P bass, been dreaming to own one. Before, I have Sire V7. Last year, I bought a Fender P. But, after making band and in a band situation, I rely on the V7 more, which is a Jazz type. She makes me create interesting bass lines more for my original material. I always consider myself as a P person. The question is, am I, deep down, without realizing it, more J person? Should I bought a Fender Jazz next? Lol

I think I'm similar to you - I like Jazz basses, but I got a P/J bass a few years ago and that instrument has been very helpful with my sound in my current band setting. The tone of this specific instrument can sit very well in the mix, especially when I play it with the P pickup solo'ed. It also fits me rather well. That means that I can play it comfortably - almost as comfortably as my favorite Jazz bass.

But I've owned several different basses through the years. Although I think that I'm naturally a little more of a J than a P player, I've tried and also bought both good and not-so-good versions of each type. Even if you think you're more of a J player, I'll bet that there are some Jazz basses out there that won't work for you. There are probably at least one or two Fenders among them.

I think that the great news is that you have that Sire V7. That's a rather good Jazz bass - I bought one last year after I tried it and I liked it a lot. The only reason I returned it was because I already had two other Jazz basses. After a week of comparing them all at home, I realized that the Sire wouldn't replace either one.

Since you already have a good Jazz bass, I don't see any reason for you to get another one. You might find that several Fender J's don't work for you as well as the Sire that you have now. If you try a specific bass and you love that specific bass, then I'd say get it. Just don't assume that you need a Fender.

Also consider that if you pick up a second J-bass, one of them might go unused. I love my different basses because they're different, but I also play all of them because each one of them fits me well and gives me some different sounds.

I should add that although I have two J-basses, one of them is loaned out to my pal's daughter who is taking up the bass, too. I was worried that it was too heavy for me, so I picked up a much lighter alternative to experiment with for a while. I'm glad that I tried this, but I'm missing my old hefty J and I'll probably get it back in the summer (or build another one just like it).

Keep trying different instruments and pay attention to their shapes, dimensions, and how they individually fit you. Your preference for J-basses could be rooted in your comfort with a more narrow neck. I'm not too comfortable with a traditional P-bass neck with its extra width, but I've also found some J-bass necks to be so narrow and shallow that they didn't fit my fretting hand very well. My favorite Jazz is 1 1/2" wide at the nut, but there is some extra wood under the finger board and it feels chunky enough to fit me very well.

It's great that you have a P and a J of some sort. If you like one more than the other, that's also great. If you feel like you have to make some sort of choice though, I don't think that's the case.
 
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I prefer versatility. I have a 70s jazz bass style with a Villex. On the 2nd setting neck p/u solo, tone at 60% it's been very p on recordings. To muddy the waters further my next build will be mm-p. I love regular p basses, but they are kinda 1 trick ponies. They do that one trick VERY well. Are you into that trick? I want more. Love your pony!
 
Or a Mark Hoppus signature, which is (reverse on the newer ones) P with a Jazz body ;)

How about an Aerodyne?

Trying a Mark Hoppus one and it's not my cup of tea. A P/J sounds fun tho!

G&L Kiloton. The MFD pickup has also has a single coil setting that can get you close to a Jazz Bass "growl" but the heritage is far more PBass in style and pickup placement.

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What sound did it produce?

Just keep buying Ps and Js. You'll eventually turn out to be a "both" person.

I don't have enough money for that lol

You get wise and buy a Musicman Stingray.

JFYI, I own one but love my Alleva LG more than anything.

Trying a Sub, and I think they're an option

I started as a Jazz bass only player and was for years but switched to P-Bass about 10 years ago. Now I feel I need both. Jazz vs. Precision

What exactly make it different?

If that Sire is working for you dont fight it! You're a bass player, simple as that. :cool:

Yeah, I know!

Disclaimer: Sire fan boy here. That V7 should cover just about any tone you can imagine. You can skip the Fender Jazz bass and get a P7, all the tones covered. Happy playing.

I just don't like the look on P7 lol

Which part of the jazz do find the most inspiring to your playing? Is it the fast, slim neck? Or is it the scooped sizzle of single coil pickups? Perhaps a combination? Knowing this will go a long way toward knowing and understanding your preferences.

I don't know, when I jammed with the P, it's just play like usual. But, when I play the Sire, magically I do great things. It's like, a magic. Does it caused because I have the Sire longer than the P?

I have always played a Jazz bass, probably for the last 30 years and never owned a P bass, I now only have a P bass and am using flatwound strings which I have never done before!

Just the opposite of me!

I'd pick the body and neck style which is most comfortable; and get P/J pick-up configuration.
IMO, other than EBMM Stingray HH configuration, P/J style configuration(s) is/are the most tonaly versatile.
Good luck.

Yeah I can do both with P/J, right?

Like what you like, and accept it. It's ok to just like one, or both.

I love the look on P more, but I play better with the Sire

I think I'm similar to you - I like Jazz basses, but I got a P/J bass a few years ago and that instrument has been very helpful with my sound in my current band setting. The tone of this specific instrument can sit very well in the mix, especially when I play it with the P pickup solo'ed. It also fits me rather well. That means that I can play it comfortably - almost as comfortably as my favorite Jazz bass.

But I've owned several different basses through the years. Although I think that I'm naturally a little more of a J than a P player, I've tried and also bought both good and not-so-good versions of each type. Even if you think you're more of a J player, I'll bet that there are some Jazz basses out there that won't work for you. There are probably at least one or two Fenders among them.

I think that the great news is that you have that Sire V7. That's a rather good Jazz bass - I bought one last year after I tried it and I liked it a lot. The only reason I returned it was because I already had two other Jazz basses. After a week of comparing them all at home, I realized that the Sire wouldn't replace either one.

Since you already have a good Jazz bass, I don't see any reason for you to get another one. You might find that several Fender J's don't work for you as well as the Sire that you have now. If you try a specific bass and you love that specific bass, then I'd say get it. Just don't assume that you need a Fender.

Also consider that if you pick up a second J-bass, one of them might go unused. I love my different basses because they're different, but I also play all of them because each one of them fits me well and gives me some different sounds.

I should add that although I have two J-basses, one of them is loaned out to my pal's daughter who is taking up the bass, too. I was worried that it was too heavy for me, so I picked up a much lighter alternative to experiment with for a while. I'm glad that I tried this, but I'm missing my old hefty J and I'll probably get it back in the summer (or build another one just like it).

Keep trying different instruments and pay attention to their shapes, dimensions, and how they individually fit you. Your preference for J-basses could be rooted in your comfort with a more narrow neck. I'm not too comfortable with a traditional P-bass neck with its extra width, but I've also found some J-bass necks to be so narrow and shallow that they didn't fit my fretting hand very well. My favorite Jazz is 1 1/2" wide at the nut, but there is some extra wood under the finger board and it feels chunky enough to fit me very well.

It's great that you have a P and a J of some sort. If you like one more than the other, that's also great. If you feel like you have to make some sort of choice though, I don't think that's the case.

Thanks for the advice man!
 
Fyi, I strung the Sire with 0.40 GHS round and the P with 0.44 LaBella Flats. Is it makr any difference? When I create bass lines, I lean on my Sire, she pulls out the best of me. But when I record my songs, I realized that the P sounds better. I don't know why magically I play better on the Sire. Ah, one more thing, I blend my PU to favor the bridge, but with slightly center. I still don't what happen, because it feels magical.
 
I prefer versatility. I have a 70s jazz bass style with a Villex. On the 2nd setting neck p/u solo, tone at 60% it's been very p on recordings. To muddy the waters further my next build will be mm-p. I love regular p basses, but they are kinda 1 trick ponies. They do that one trick VERY well. Are you into that trick? I want more. Love your pony!

1 Trick Pony? No....1 Voice pony? Yes.... Im like you: I like, and use, the voicing versatility that multiple pickups gives that a single-pickup P cant do......but there is a lot of versatility that can be milked from that single pickup with technique variations as well as pluck hand positions...but thats more akin to making different vowel sounds with one mouth as opposed to having multiple mouths to work with :D
 
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So, I always love the look on P bass, been dreaming to own one. Before, I have Sire V7. Last year, I bought a Fender P. But, after making band and in a band situation, I rely on the V7 more, which is a Jazz type. She makes me create interesting bass lines more for my original material. I always consider myself as a P person. The question is, am I, deep down, without realizing it, more J person? Should I bought a Fender Jazz next? Lol

Yes...buy yourself a nice Fender Jazz. I did that in 1966 and have never looked back. This is only my second Jazz. Bought it because my '65 was stolen.