Knash that is indeed the fingering for the major scale. There are other fingerings for the same scale, extend the scale to two octaves and and you will be able to use it to play all the modes of this scale. You will be able to play the melodies to many songs. And you will learn to use position shifts to extend this scale up the neck. Try to hear things in your head and play them within the two octave scale. If you have more than 4 strings you may have to extend this scale more than two octaves to move up the neck.
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1-5-8 box pattern
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Climbing in the box is easy but breaking out of it is the hard part. Sometimes I used to feel like a Mime... Trapped inside the invisible box that is the Pentatonic scale. "Let me out!" but... I can't speak... no..... no.... Nightmares...
It took me years of therapy to get over it... Thanks for bringing up the skeletons in the closet...
I used to be a box pattern junkee!
It took me years of therapy to get over it... Thanks for bringing up the skeletons in the closet...
I used to be a box pattern junkee!
This is the thing, as CROZs says and as Ed Fugua has explained in more detail on the previous page. How do you break out of these patterns and actually make music that isn't just an arpeggio?
In Jazz workshops, I have come across bass players who seem competely locked into these patterns and when it come to their turn to solo, they just seem to be repeating the same sort of thing they are playing when accompanying the rest of the time.
I think it's all about what Ed says - is the instrument playing you? Are you just playing what the instrument dictates to you by nature of its physical layout or what you really want to play or hear in your head? I've taken to listening to Jazz trumpet players and how they construct lines, as they don't have the same restriction of a physical pattern laid out on front of them.
I know you can say we are only talking about beginning bass here - but are we really expecting that people will want to stop their development on the instrument and be forever constrained to one way of playing? My view is that the moment I stop developing and learning, is the time I give up playing altogether. The pattern thing can be very hard to break out of and I think that we need to be aware of this.
Although I know Jaco's instructional video was created under sad circumstances, there are bits of it that have stayed with me and the things he says when asked for one thing to help bass players, is to learn tunes. He mentions about how bass players are never expected to learn the tune but that this helps immensely with devloping lines that aren't just standard patterns.
In Jazz workshops, I have come across bass players who seem competely locked into these patterns and when it come to their turn to solo, they just seem to be repeating the same sort of thing they are playing when accompanying the rest of the time.
I think it's all about what Ed says - is the instrument playing you? Are you just playing what the instrument dictates to you by nature of its physical layout or what you really want to play or hear in your head? I've taken to listening to Jazz trumpet players and how they construct lines, as they don't have the same restriction of a physical pattern laid out on front of them.
I know you can say we are only talking about beginning bass here - but are we really expecting that people will want to stop their development on the instrument and be forever constrained to one way of playing? My view is that the moment I stop developing and learning, is the time I give up playing altogether. The pattern thing can be very hard to break out of and I think that we need to be aware of this.
Although I know Jaco's instructional video was created under sad circumstances, there are bits of it that have stayed with me and the things he says when asked for one thing to help bass players, is to learn tunes. He mentions about how bass players are never expected to learn the tune but that this helps immensely with devloping lines that aren't just standard patterns.
