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$17,000 1958 P-Bass

Why would a pre-CBS Precision that isn't 100% original be valued higher than a pre-CBS Jazz that is 100% original? [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
Aren't pre-CBS Jazz basses worth more than Precisions due to the fact they were only produced for 4 years vs. 14 years? $17k is too much for that Pbass!
 
Why would a pre-CBS Precision that isn't 100% original be valued higher than a pre-CBS Jazz that is 100% original? [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
Aren't pre-CBS Jazz basses worth more than Precisions due to the fact they were only produced for 4 years vs. 14 years? $17k is too much for that Pbass!
The Jazz is a refret (though you get all the old frets in a baggie). Whether that is the appropriate hit for a refret, I don't know, but it isn't all original either
 
I'm surprised it took 4 whole posts before someone presented this pearl of wisdom.

You're slipping, TB!
Yeah, that response always makes me shake my head, like "thank you captain obvious for the lesson in microeconomics; now can we discuss the price vs value?"

I would love to see a professional appraiser drop that response, "...after careful examination and consulting with several experts in the field and carbon dating a sample of the specimen, we estimate the value to be....'exactly what someone is willing to pay for it'"
 
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What are your thoughts on this instrument? Not that I have any funds to purchase it - just curious what people think about appreciation/depreciation/investment aspects. This might be the most expensive bass I've ever seen, and I'm not sure if one would purchase strictly as an investment, or more so to use as gigging bass.

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overpriced
 
Its my observation that there are enough people that worship instruments from this era and think that anything is a collectors pIece.

The actual truth is that a small percentage of golden era instruments are wonderful and magical, but you have to play and examine each one carefully to determine that.

Would I ever spend even a small percentage of what this instrument costs - even if it was phenomenal? No way!

For what this costs, you could buy yourself two or three state-of-the-art basses -- and a couple of mediocre ones too. As a player, not a collector or speculator, that would be my choice.
 
As bass players we want to make a certain kind of sound. Will this bass make that sound? Probably. Will it be thousands of time better than more modern (and less expensive) basses? Probably not. Will we play thousands of times better because we own a bass like this? Probably not. Will we get more gigs because we own a bass like this? Probably not. I can't imagine how many gigs I would have to play to pay for a bass like this. I will say that I once played a '58 P bass that was flat out amazing , but no one would know this but me.
 
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Honestly, I'd take this one first. I could take it to gigs and not care what happens to it.

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Folks cmon....the P bass is still argueably THE bass to many ( l like J's too).

There really is not a standard in bass playing more than a P bass....it covers SO many genres it aint even funny ( I like J's too).

TOO simple in layout as well....quiet....takes flats and rounds equally well....extremely easy to repair or replace parts.

To me it hits all the checkmarks for a collectible....I mean I would still play this bass, probably in a protected environment, but still, it could be played sparingly without hurting its value imo.
 
What if it's in such great aesthetic conditions because it's a lemon and was played very little? A 17k$ lemon?
There have been a lot of 'under the bed guitars' in general that turned out to be fine instruments.

Myself, coming from more of the guitar world than basses, it doesn't seem that overly priced....17k aint gonna stop a millionaire.

Big difference between a 9.0 condition and a 9.7 condition too.
 
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I bet it's everything Chad says it is. I once played a '59 P at Emerald City Guitars, and that wide, thin, thin nut felt better to me than pretty much any other bass ever.

Yeah, I have a '59 (maple neck) and it has the best P bass neck I've played. Fortunately I paid less than one tenth of that price (with original tweed case, Fender brown tolex gigbag - yes, really; very seldom seen from that era - , strap, covers and even a bonus real pre-CBS tort guard along with the anodized gold one).
 
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