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My "smaller" rig is a G-K 400RB-IV into an Avatar SB112 NEO and an Avatar B210 NEO. I find it to be ideal for almost all of the indoor gigs I play. Outdoors, not so much.
I used to for many years - an Avatar B210 and B112 (the really old cube style):
Most nights I liked them a lot, but some nights I feel like I had to fiddle with EQ a good bit and still never quite dialed them in...
I blame the power distribution mis-match for the early death of the 12, and subsequently the 10s... after unknowingly turning up to make up for the loss of the 12...*
I did repair them, as that pair holds sentimental value for me, but I don't think I'd run that combination ever again. YMMV
*Edit: to be fair, I also blame my, at the time, over-enthusiasm for low-lows, and my MB2-500 for giving them to me so easily
Most nights I liked them a lot, but some nights I feel like I had to fiddle with EQ a good bit and still never quite dialed them in...
I blame the power distribution mis-match for the early death of the 12, and subsequently the 10s... after unknowingly turning up to make up for the loss of the 12...*
I did repair them, as that pair holds sentimental value for me, but I don't think I'd run that combination ever again. YMMV
*Edit: to be fair, I also blame my, at the time, over-enthusiasm for low-lows, and my MB2-500 for giving them to me so easily
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I have an Avatar Neo SB112 and Avater Neo B210. I got the 1x12 to see how it sounded and like both by itself and with the 2x10. I stack the 210 vertically on the 112 with the centers of the cones aligned and it works very well for my needs.
What are you trying to accomplish? Mixing cabs or a great sound?
Mix if it sounds great. If you're simply buying because you imagine it'll sound great, then get a cab you like and then another.
Mix if it sounds great. If you're simply buying because you imagine it'll sound great, then get a cab you like and then another.
This is sound (pun intended) advice. I got my 1x12 to see how it sounded, and the combination works for me. If I was gigging more often I'd invest in another MATCHING 2X10 and compare a vertical 4x10 stack, and I'd want to try a stacked pair of matched 1x12 to see what works better for moi.
I have an Eden 2x10. An Eden 1x12 combo is for sale
locally. 2x10 is 4 ohms, combo is 8 ohm cab.
Combo can do 2 ohm load.
Just wondering how the 2x10 will match with a 1x12.
locally. 2x10 is 4 ohms, combo is 8 ohm cab.
Combo can do 2 ohm load.
Just wondering how the 2x10 will match with a 1x12.
Not for every gig, but I use a Rumble 500 V3 combo with a 112 extension cab. Same thing. Sounds amazing. Anyone that tells you this combination doesn't work has either never tried it or they're just wrong.
No Mixed Drivers Police will descend upon your domicile in 3... 2... 1...
I’m sure it works. And as long as it works for you, rock it! But is it better than a adding matched 210 extension? Maybe, maybe not. One will never really know until one has tried it.
Bill Fitzmaurice has said that adding second cab, matched or unmatched, will almost always sound better than one cab alone, but it’s often less optimal the adding a matched cab.
But like i said before, rock what works for you.
I don't drink the matched cabs kool-aid. For nearly 17 years, I gigged with a 115 and 410 stack. No one ever complained until I joined TalkBass. Never heard of that Bill guy.
No one here is complaining, friend. Rock what you like. Bill is a guy who knows a little about acoustics and cab design.
I use the SB112 and 2-10 (both avatars) and sometimes the Shuttle 6.0T and 2-10 or sb112. All good.
Not sure I understand just don't but.......ok.
they sound great - work well and are manageable.
YMMV
I don't have one but a friend of mine was playing locally when I lived in Virginia and I went to see him. He was using an Eden Metro (210) with an Eden D112XLT on top of it. Was a large club (capacity over 600) and the club was full. I was a bit surprised, but it more than filled that packed room. He sounded really good at the dance floor and also at the back of the room.
So which Eden 112 combo can handle a 2 ohm load? You'll actually have twice as much power going to that 210 because it's a 4 ohm cabinet, but that's OK because each speaker will be getting the same power - each of the 4 ohm speakers will get the same amount of power as the 112 does. I can tell you for sure that the Metro with the addition of the D112XLT sounds great.
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Ran a Bergantino 112 with Berg 210 for a number of years. Was the second best sound I ever had. The best was a Berg HT322. Gave it up because of the weight. Later gave up the 112 and 210 because I wanted lighter. I have lighter now but miss those good old days.
I've used my Peavey headliner 2x10 ( which is a little dark / muffled sounding - no tweeter ) with my Carvin 1x12
( brighter and has an adjustable tweeter ) balancing each other out with good results.
I already had each as part of separate rigs, so, why not? Plus, I needed a bit more at an outdoor gig than the Peavey could handle on its own.
As a side note - I haven't compared them together against two of the Carvin 1x12's yet, but, I'm more curious now that I write this, to find out what sounds better.
( brighter and has an adjustable tweeter ) balancing each other out with good results.
I already had each as part of separate rigs, so, why not? Plus, I needed a bit more at an outdoor gig than the Peavey could handle on its own.
As a side note - I haven't compared them together against two of the Carvin 1x12's yet, but, I'm more curious now that I write this, to find out what sounds better.
