200 Watts?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by SWiTCH, Nov 17, 2005.

  1. SWiTCH


    Jul 20, 2004
  2. bad_andy


    Sep 21, 2005
    Omaha, NE
    I'll give you a great big qualified yes. It really depends on how sane the people you are playing with keep their volume. For a straight ahead jazz gig you'd probably be able to get obnoxiously loud with that. For a metal gig with a baseball bat weilding drummer and a guitarist with a half stack turned up to 11, you'll have issues.

    I gig with a 200 watt head (from an Acoustic Image Clarus II combo) run into an Avatar 2x12 cab and I get plenty of stage volume for most of the SRV, Cream, Hendrix type power trio stuff my weekly house band show needs. On the other hand both the amp and cabinet in my rig are efficient and clean sounding components. I've played through "higher powered" rigs that we're blurry sounding and less clear, so the perceived volume was lower in loud situations.
  3. UMMmmmmmm....if you plug into a PA - yes.
    If not....maybe....depends if you're playing low-volume or not, otherwise you'll be farting your speaker to compete. Trust me, I've done that too many times to count! :meh:

    For a rehearsal scenario you'd get by, but your drummer may struggle to really discern you from the guitars, especially if you're playing with two guitarists with decent equip. You'd probably end up struggling toi cut through.

    Sorry to be negative mate, an 200w ALL TUBE would be ok, but 200w Solid state just isn't loud enough for me. (JMHO)
    I'd go for AT THE VERY LEAST double that Watt value myself, in a gigging scenario.
    Hope it helps,
  4. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    I guess it depends on the amp! I gigged for several years with a Fender BXR200 and that damn thing was loud for 200w! I've not heard the Yorkville but I'll assume it'll be loud enough for a bar gig.
  5. if you have a second speake/cab to add to that (if you even can) it would probably be enough to work as a decent/acceptable stage monitor, if you are playing at average stage levels?
  6. Pickebass

    Pickebass Supporting Member

    Jul 12, 2004
    San Antonio, TX
    Definitely add the extra cab. In theory 200 watts is enough, but outside of a small gig with a drummer who can control himself/herself you can be pushing it without a PA. For that price you might want to check into something used with a little more power
  7. Robear22

    Robear22 Supporting Member

    Sep 28, 2004
    Beach Park, Ill
    I have that amp and it is not 200 watts. It is about 120 to 140 watts. It does not reach 200 until you are at 2 ohms. The internal speaker is 4 ohms. Here are the specs from the Yorkville site:

    Type Combo Bass Amplifier
    Cabinet Impedance (Ohms) 4
    Power @ min. impedance (Watts) 200
    Minimum Impedance (Ohms) 2
    Burst Power - 2 cycle 250
    Speaker Configuration - LF (Size / Power) Single 15 inch
    Speaker Configuration - HF (Size / Power) Piezo Tweeter
    Hum and Noise (dB) -90 dB Unweighted / -94dB Weighted
    Input Channels 1
    Channel 1 - inputs 1/4 inch phono jack
    Channel 1 - controls Volume, Bass, Lo-mid, Hi-mid, Treble, Contour
    Channel 1 - switches Limiter, DI out pre/post EQ
    Input Sensitivity (mV) 25
    Line Out (type / configuration) XLR pre or post EQ
    Line Out Sensitivity (Vrms) 1.0
    Effects Loop / Location Yes / Front
    LED Indicators Power
    Protection Thermal / Short Circuit
    Limiter / Switchable Yes
    External speaker output / location Yes / Rear
    Headphone Jack Yes
    Other Features XC115X Single 15 inch Extension cabinet is ideal mate for XC200 / XC200T
    Dimensions (DWH, inches) 14 x 21 x 23.5
    Dimensions (DWH, cm) 37 x 54 x 60
    Weight (lbs / kg) 60.6 / 27.5

    I have played out with this amp and struggle at times to be heard. I usually have the volume at about 7 or 8 which leaves me almost maxed out. I have not tried it with an extension cab but more speakers might make a difference. If you play with a light hitting drummer and mellow guitarist you should be fine but if they play with any intensity you will be in trouble. And do not play with the scoop activated. It kills your mids and you will not be heard.
  8. specplyrz

    specplyrz Banned

    Nov 11, 2005
  9. spectorbass83


    Jun 6, 2005
    I have the older model Yorkville 2x10 (the one with the blue carpet covering). I play in a 4 piece band which consists of the following:

    Lead guitarist - 4x12 Berhinger cab with 100W Peavey head (SS)
    Rhythm guitarist - 2x12 Line6 150W combo
    A drummer that hits very hard.
    We play mostly Hard Rock (similar to Taproot/Chevelle)

    I find that this current combo is not enough for me. If you have PA support at a gig, rent a DI box and then just use the York as a monitor, this works fine. Without PA support this thing struggles and gets lost in the mix. If you play a gig w/o PA support rent an additional York 1x15 extension cab, it makes a big difference.
  10. tourettes5139


    Nov 8, 2005
    Was that with an extension cab, or just by itself?
  11. jokerjkny


    Jan 19, 2002
    NY / NJ / PA
    are they crankin' those amps? if so, you're gonna need 4x the power and roughly equal the speaker area.
  12. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    By itself. The combo had no provision for an extension cab so the 200w went straight to it's internal 15" speaker! Believe me, it was loud! Never had the volume past 12 o'clock! Had to be told to turn down many times! The BXR's are no longer made but if you could find a used one, jump on it!
  13. The 0x

    The 0x

    Aug 24, 2003
    Timonium, MD
    I've found the XM200 to be one of the loudest 200 watt combo's i'd ever tried. You just need to keep the scoop control completely OFF.
  14. Beefbass

    Beefbass Guest

    Feb 4, 2001
    I've just discovered this recently myself. The amp really seems to open up more once you turn that scoop knob down.

    Another little tip-boost the low mids just a tad, and this amp will really thunder!! It still sounds warm, but incredibly punchy to me!

    I'm just trying to decide whether to add the XC115XC, or an Avatar 212 in 4 ohm. Anybody have any suggestions concerning that?
  15. 200watts will keeps up with most halfstacks at 2, pushing it at 3, dying at 4. 11 will never happen. (figures for SWR 200watt thru goliath half stack)
  16. Drummer with self control? oxymoron?
  17. The 0x

    The 0x

    Aug 24, 2003
    Timonium, MD
    My drummer has the opposite problem. She plays way too quietly. Then again she is a girl, and new, so we'll see how it works.