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2012 NHL Offseason Thread

#501
Really I can't get away from the players' side given that the owners signed so many huge contracts since July 1st. They full well knew that they would be asking for 25% of those contracts back. To me that's pure BS. If they signed those contracts, honor them. That's the players' big sticking point right now.

I think the players see it right. The system needs fixing big time and the owners' method of just asking for concessions from the players time after time after time just doesn't fix it.
 
#502
mkandolf said:
Really I can't get away from the players' side given that the owners signed so many huge contracts since July 1st. They full well knew that they would be asking for 25% of those contracts back. To me that's pure BS. If they signed those contracts, honor them. That's the players' big sticking point right now.

I think the players see it right. The system needs fixing big time and the owners' method of just asking for concessions from the players time after time after time just doesn't fix it.
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Contracts signed are still subject to the terms of the CBA. The players who signed those late contracts knew this just as well as the owners did. It's a wash.
 
#503
Perhaps money-wise but then you throw the years in.

In any case, can the owners seriously keep a league afloat if they keep signing these ridiculous contracts and then expect the players to give back ever 7 or 8 years? How would you like it if your boss did that to you?
 
#504
mkandolf said:
Perhaps money-wise but then you throw the years in.

In any case, can the owners seriously keep a league afloat if they keep signing these ridiculous contracts and then expect the players to give back ever 7 or 8 years? How would you like it if your boss did that to you?
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If my boss offered me 50% of revenue, I'd jump at it.

If some of the idiot owners in this league didn't do the things they do, they wouldn't have these problems. So I agree with the notion that they've created this mess themselves. (keep in mind, however, it's not all the owners that do these moronic things. I could go on a rant about this, but I won't).

The players need to understand that the NHL is notorious for not wanting someone else to tell them how to run their business, which is their prerogative. They're the ones taking the risk, the players aren't. If the players continue to play hardball, they will lose eventully. They need to remember the sentiment that is taught to them when they're kids playing minor hockey: the logo on the front of the jersey is bigger than the name on the back. They think they are the product, but they aren't. They're only part of the product.
 
#513
Darth Handsome said:
I've heard arguments that Snyder's 'shenanigans' are part of the reason the league is in the situation it's in. I'm not familiar enough with Philly's business patterns to know how accurate that is.
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Supposedly Snider originally backed Buttman to get big concessions and thus bigger profits. The big market teams would stand to benefit the most from big concessions from the players. Now that it's obvious this isn't going to heppen, at least not without at least losing more than one full season, there's diminishing returns. So big owners are turning to get it over with and let's play and start making money again. The cash machine needs to start making them money again.

I really don't care at this point...

I WANT MY HOCKEY BACK
 

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