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2014 Formula 1 Rule Changes

#21
guy n. cognito said:
It's never been a "free-for-all."
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Compared to what? Sure there were rules but nothing like today. There was a time when teams were allowed to use different engine designs/sizes, had the option of using turbos/superchargers or not, mid/rear/front engines, different fuels, no restrictions on weight or aerodynamics aids- the list goes on and on. Yes, it was a lot more dangerous. And a lot more interesting. I don't believe those two properties need be mutually inclusive. IMO.
 
#22
I'm more curious about what they do about the crazy tire situation.

I'd like to see different engine designs compete against each other, including allowing teams to switch mid-seasons and run two drivers with different engines. Not gonna happen.
 
#28
Ripper said:
For about 3 minutes.
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You want it to last longer? Get one of these:
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#29
Ripper said:
For about 3 minutes.
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Actually, they're only making that much power for about 4 seconds (or 7 for the pro stockers). But in a thousand feet they go half as fast again as an F1 car. (The two top fuel classes don't race a quarter mile any more - they only go 1,000 feet since the death of Scott Kalitta. They wanted to get the speeds down and get another 320 feet for shutdown. But they still go over 300 mph. I really don't get it.)
 
#32
Munjibunga said:
They rebuild the engine after every run. So you're right.
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Yes, they do, but an average of like 16,000 revs for two hours is impressive. How often do we see the engines blow up? Rarely, especially compared to the revs and usage (quick acceleration, super-quick deceleration, repeat a bajillion times). This is the main reason I like Le Mans. 24 hours racing isn't easy on any engine. And then you hear the guys like, "Oh yeah, she's only running on 9 cylinders, but she's stable." What would happen if an F1 "ran" on 7 cylinders?

BOOM.

I do hope, however, that they keep the "eight engine per season" rule going. Which I'm sure they will. Anyways, this was my little OT rant. I will like to see how they figure out cooling, since the new ERS generates a TON of heat, and so does the turbo, all combined with a new lack of room. We may see more breakdowns in the cars. Hopefully Red Bull. Sorry guys, I'm a die-hard Ferrari fan. GO ALONSO!
 
#33
As long as Kimi stays at Lotus I'll be happy... Everyone keeps blabbing to me about how the only way Kimi (or anyone else) can get back on top as World Champion is to drive an Adrian Newey-designed car. Well, Newey may miss the boat completely in designing next year's car and who knows how the engine situation will change everything. I think anything can happen - but the teams with the most money will likely still end up on top (as usual). Still, I think Lotus is the best place for Kimi. Anybody but Red Bull...
 
#34
JazznFunk said:
As long as Kimi stays at Lotus I'll be happy... Everyone keeps blabbing to me about how the only way Kimi (or anyone else) can get back on top as World Champion is to drive an Adrian Newey-designed car. Well, Newey may miss the boat completely in designing next year's car and who knows how the engine situation will change everything. I think anything can happen - but the teams with the most money will likely still end up on top (as usual). Still, I think Lotus is the best place for Kimi. Anybody but Red Bull...
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I do like Kimi as well. Fortunately, they announced yesterday that he's staying at Lotus. I like this for two reasons: Kimi has nothing to do with Red Bull, and Ricciardo (or Vergne, though probably Ricciardo) will get a shot at a great car, and who knows? Maybe Ricciardo/Vergne is the next Senna. Or maybe they'll get somewhere close to Schumi.

But no one will ever beat MSC.

EVER.
 
#36
Yeah, very excited for Kimi... Also, you guys talking about the dragsters; if I'm not mistaken, those run on straight nitrous oxide. The explosion rate, as we all know, skyrockets with the stuff, and you get a ton more horsepower and torque, especially torque. That's why they accelerate so quickly. But if you ran them on "normal" gas, then we'd see hugely different results.

And just when we were starting to get back to F1...
 
#37
metalhead398 said:
I do hope, however, that they keep the "eight engine per season" rule going. Which I'm sure they will.
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Actually part of their reasoning behind lowering the rev limit to 15k was so they could decrease the number of engines. I think I saw plans to get to 6 engines per season. Unfortunately, that reduced rev limit has taken a lot out of the sound of the engines IMO. I'm just hoping they'll sound better than the Indycars do (less muffled, more ear splitting like they were)
 
#39
Everytime there's a major rules change one manufacturer dominates: the last one left Red Bull on top, the one before that it was Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, etc. Just Bernies way of keeping peace in the game and all the manufacturers interested and happy. I know the drivers don'rt care (unless your a vettle fan) - since this will obviously push someone else to the top. I just hope Kimi gets a good ride for 2014.
 
#40
Once Upon A Time - when it was 3,0-liter NA vs 1,5 liter turbos - F1 was sprint races. ANY pit stop pretty much put you out of the points. Now you have teams choosing between 2-stop vs 3 (4?) stop strategies.

The cars need to go the distance (which is what - 200 mi or 2 hr?) on -one- tank of fuel and -one- set of tires.

Limit the refuel rate to about 1 liter/sec. Throw away the pneumatic wrenches. 4 guys over the wall at a time max.

The cars will be slower. But they will be racing.

You cannot tell me the James Hunt / Niki Lauda / Ronnie Pederson / Gilles Villeneuve / Jody Scheckter days weren't racing. I saw it.
 

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