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2022, now mainstream pop songs go well below open B string!
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This is what I was going to say. All instruments have limitations. It just makes more sense to play these songs on a synth like the Novation or Moog, and keep the bass guitar functioning idiomatically.
Reading comprehension isn’t always the strongest here… That said, I have ventured into the pop world in little bits here and there. Of the ones you mentioned Dua Lipa is the one I’ve tried the most. My only bass is a 5 string, and not only am I not afraid of low notes, I quite enjoy them, so I embrace anything that’s willing to venture into those low notes. I haven’t done much to approach that kind of music as a whole, mainly because it’s not a genre that I enjoy, I’m more into modern rock. But when I play stuff for my daughter I’ll happily play anything down to B. I don’t like tuning my strings up and down a lot because I like a brighter tone, so I’d probably want another bass for lower tunings lol.
Nope. Fecal matter tastes great to flies. And people into modern music probably feel the same way about music from our prime years.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
If you are playing songs that really need the notes in that register. You will have a keyboard.
I played "She's Country" (Jason Aldean) with a band for about 7 years with a 4 string bass, in venues that regularly played modern country. It has a low C#. I just played the line up an octave.
No one ever complained.
I played "She's Country" (Jason Aldean) with a band for about 7 years with a 4 string bass, in venues that regularly played modern country. It has a low C#. I just played the line up an octave.
No one ever complained.
These arrived this morning and then I saw this thread. Good timing. If I use an octave pedal I reckon I’ll go back in time.
There, fixed that for you.
They had to replace disco with some other similar extruded plastic product, and this is it.
And how would that be different from my bass? Also, how to monitor synth on stage, and why would that be different from bass?
What kind of meddling is that? Regardless if the track from a sequencer or a person, the notes can be the same. Your participation added nothing, just a chance for you to be negative. Please stay away.
I'm not in a band that plays those songs but, if I were, I would bring a controller and play that stuff on the keyboard.
You actually don't need much rig for your bass on stage, either. We play with heads and cabinets mainly because we either like the sound they give us or we are used to how it works to have that gear behind us - tradition. But modern sound systems (wedges or in-ears) can certainly handle those frequencies and there are a variety of cab simulator options that bassists can choose from in order to have a more silent stage while still achieving tonal bliss.
So the answer is "no different" except that you might be working in a more old-fashioned manner than someone else. I get it - I still lug my head and cabinet to every show because I'm used to doing that, but I recognize it's not really necessary these days. At some point I'll likely make some changes
Look here buckaroo, you don't get to post on a public forum and then whine when people comment on the same public forum. Don't you tell ME to stay away.
Because you are asking more of a stayed rig than they are designed for. They aren't designed to produce the fundamental of a low F#. If you out a high pass filter between the synth amd stayed rig, you could get by hearing the first or second harmonics. But you would not want to simply run a synth (being deployed for the specific purpose of producing very low notes) into a traditional bass rig. If you need stage monitoring, your best bet would literally be a PA stack. In other words, you would need a top and a sub, similar to what a small band would use as their mains. For years, drum monitors on larger stages looked like this.
You seem to be getting a little bit of a chip on your shoulder toward people who are trying to help you.
The simple fact if the matter is what you're wanting to do is impractical given today's tech.
Want a simple solution? Go in-ears. Good in-ear buds would allow you to put whatever you want in your monitors in a tiny package.
But, to stick to the way you want to do things, you will need a bass rig and bass, a synth, and a PA top cab and sub for your synth stage monitor. That seems like a lot to haul around. Maybe if you got a small mixer and a preamp for bass you could send both your bass and the synth through your PA stick stage monitor. But I bet you would then get into volume wars on stage quickly. Never mind that producing those very low notes and having them blast all over the stage (rather than simply out of the PA mains) would've for a miserable, muddy, stage volume situation.
But what do I know? I only have 35 years of experience playing bass live and running sound. You might be "different", or not "typical", but the laws of physics still apply to you.
Either way, I'm tapping out of this discussion. Best of luck with finding a solution.
Must be the week for people who want to ask questions but not hear the answers, I guess.
What do I do personally to handle this stuff? I don't play hyperpop in a band, but I do jam it with my Gen Z daughter, (sidebar: she openly mocks pretty much every "must have" cover song ever listed on TB. Millenials are more into throwback music than the Gen Zs. They have an appreciation, but also have a much wider range of musical interests than my generation did (graduated late 80s)).
I play 5s and 6s with low Bs. For those really low brown notes, I use my old Ibanez bass synth pedal, pluck around the 24th fret and just play every note on the B string. The meatier timbre of the B combined with plucking in a bassier area, plus the bass synth tricks the ear into hearing it as a low F# or G or whatever. Especially when she's hitting it on the keys as well. Harmonics are our friends.
I play 5s and 6s with low Bs. For those really low brown notes, I use my old Ibanez bass synth pedal, pluck around the 24th fret and just play every note on the B string. The meatier timbre of the B combined with plucking in a bassier area, plus the bass synth tricks the ear into hearing it as a low F# or G or whatever. Especially when she's hitting it on the keys as well. Harmonics are our friends.
Nope. Fecal matter tastes great to flies. And people into modern music probably feel the same way about music from our prime years.
Here's the current No. 1 song:
LOL...quick, let me go grab my bass and learn this! Come on...seriously...
