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4x10 & 1x15 or 8x10

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DrPepper09

Jan 22, 2009
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#1
I'm looking for amp cabinets, i already decided on the ampeg SVT series. I originally wanted 4x10 & 1x15 to get the treble sound with the 4x10 as well as the low bass with the 1x15. I was informed that you basically get the same low bass with 8x10. Should i stick with my original plan with the 4x10 & 1x15 or should i go for the 8x10?


In short,
What would sound better a 4x10 & 1x15 cab or 8x10 cab?
 
#2
I own both and I think there is a minimal difference between one combo or the other in terms of low end. You can get a tremendous amount of low end from an 8x10 cab. I think that it may be a different game if you get a 1x18. If you're looking for low end, I wouldn't shy from the 8x10.
 
#3
I personally prefer the modular approach. Some times all you need is a 410, some times all you need is a 115, and sometimes you really need both.
JMHO mind you
 
#4
smogg said:
I personally prefer the modular approach. Some times all you need is a 410, some times all you need is a 115, and sometimes you really need both.
JMHO mind you
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+1 to this. Unless all of your gigs are in large rooms (1,000+ capacity) and/or outdoors and/or you are playing at ridiculous stage volume, an 8x10 is really overkill. I've used a single 4x10 since the mid-90s and can count on one hand the times I really wished I had more. Why kill yourself schlepping around more cabinet than you need?

Get a 4x10, a 1x15, and mix and match as needed. Heck if you've got a local music store that does short term rentals you might not even need to buy the 1x15... just rent that for bigger venues or outdoors since most smaller indoor rooms have plenty of low-end already built-in.
 
#6
jaywa said:
+1 to this. Unless all of your gigs are in large rooms (1,000+ capacity) and/or outdoors and/or you are playing at ridiculous stage volume, an 8x10 is really overkill. I've used a single 4x10 since the mid-90s and can count on one hand the times I really wished I had more. Why kill yourself schlepping around more gear than you need?

Get a 4x10, a 1x15, and mix and match as needed. Heck if you've got a local music store that does short term rentals you might not even need to buy the 1x15 straight away... just rent that as needed.
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i have the BA115 and i was considering just wiring that in with the 4x10 when i get it until i have money for the 1x15... or i could get the 8x10 and add the my BA115 for extreme overkill :hyper::p
 
#9
If I wasn't an old fart i would go with the 8 x 10..if it's a newer one you can run just half of it at 8 ohms, so it's basically a 4 x 10....I wouldn;t worry about the high end.....You can get a lot of it from an SVT 8 x 10. Then if you get the killer gig you can use both sides of the 8 x 10 !!

Good luck

Bill
 
#11
Yeah, I'd go modular... 810s are a PITA to try to move around.

Personally, I use a 2x10, a 4x10, and a 1x15, but we play at the afformentioned "ridiculous stage volume). I'm seriously considering going even further modular down to three 2x10 cabs and the 1x15 just to make moving them around even easier.
 
#14
an 8x10 has fantastic punch but generally speaking, we think a 410/115 stack is the best. not just specific to our products, but in general, there's something nice about how the 15 complements the 410 sound. the stack tends to sound a little warmer, a little fuller, and the projection of the sound seems a little broader than an 8x10. on a big stage, with tons of watts pumping, an 810 is the king, but any situation other than that and we'd take a 410/115 stack every time, and the extra versatility (as others have pointed out) is great.
 
#15
I prefer the 810. I have done a test between the 210, 410, 410hlf, 610 and 810 and have always found that nothing moves air or bumps like the 810. The 15 to me has always not been the best and I think there's better companies out there that make low low end cabs. I personally own 2 810's. One black and one AV. I am also purchasing another American made one this weekend for 400 bucks in mint condition...can't wait. I run two live and have never had a problem fitting it. Make sure you find American made Ampeg stuff. I owned an 810 that was not American and the production cost has really gone down it seems. Try to find used Ampeg in mint condition! Good luck!
 
#18
I've toured with the ampeg classic 410 and 115 set up for close to a year now. I LOVE the sound it creates and the simple fact that its not what EVERY other bassist is using.

That said it does get to be somewhat of a hassle dealing with 2 enclosures. The 810, despite being larger, is definitely easier to get around thanks to the wheel design, slide rails and sturdy towel bar handle.

In most live applications, the sonic differences between the two setups are not noticeable at all.

410 and 115 is my sonic choice, but to save my self another trip to the trailer I went with the 810. hah

Also if you dig a little deeper and pay a little more, some companies offer crazy cab combinations. Green Amps produces a few like the 410 and 215 in one cab and the monster 615 cab. Also a german company called Tec Amp produces what they call the "Bad Cab" which is 215's 212's and 410's in a package the same size as the 810.
 
#20
Johnny Mack said:
ampeg used to make a 410 and 115 in an 810 box, dont know if they still do, though.
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History. Archives. Vamoose. Gesphincto. Played a couple rented 410/115 Ampeg cabs. Hated it. The 410 always drowns out the 115, and then there's the phasing issues. Give me an 810 any day. It ain't a perfect cab but it feels so nice to stand in front of ;)
 

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