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56 years later, carpal tunnel strikes.

Freight Train

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Here I am at age 73, 56 years in the trenches as a gigging bass player, and carpal tunnel syndrome has hit my left hand like a firestorm. I never appreciated of course how pain from nerve damage is different from other pain. It's hard to describe, but I totally agree now with a character in a novel I read who stated that nerve damage pain is "pure". It can be and often is all types of pain at once, but even at best it's a combo. Know what it would feel like if your hand was immersed in ice water while being on fire inside? Neither did I.
I totally ignored the early sign, which started about a year ago when my left hand would go to sleep holding my phone while I was doom scrolling. When it finally struck full force a month or so ago it came on suddenly in the middle of the night while I was asleep. It felt like my left arm from elbow to fingertips had been doused in acid and was swelling up to the point of bursting. Well there was no acid or swelling, it was the "little c", I guess we can call it.
Over days it gradually focused down to just in my hand, but some nights it will still randomly attack the whole forearm again. By the time I was able to get in for the nerve tests I had slept maybe 4 hours over the previous 3 nights.
Because I insist on having the best doctor do this I am now sitting 2 weeks later waiting for the phone to ring as the scheduler is finally supposed to call today to schedule the surgery (and please God let that be soon after).
The two bits of good news is that my elbow will not have to be done as they originally thought, which is cubital tunnel syndrome. Essentially carpal tunnel affects your thumb, first and second fingers and half you ring finger, cubital tunnel the other half of your ring finger and the pinky. The other good news is there is now a much less invasive endoscopic procedure that involves a small incision and two stitches in an office visit, and recovery time is usually quicker. But it can still take 6 weeks and longer for "near full recovery" and months for full recovery in some cases. But some bass players report being able to rehearse with the band within a week and do a gig within 3 weeks.
This is killing me as I've had to cancel on my band for a blues festival this weekend and that will be the first gig I've missed with this band since I joined 11 years ago, and I've told them just to go ahead and plan on subs for what we have coming up over the next 2 months as I have no idea what recovery time will be. It's a personal point of pride that I don't miss gigs I've committed to, I doubt that's happened more than 2 or 3 times over all these years, so this is hard. And I'm also not ignoring the fact that this could be the end for me.
In prep my beloved Teles will have to take a back seat for now and I'm having my Jack Casady Epiphone, with its much thinner and narrower neck, set up with LaBella Low Tension Flats. The doctor said light playing would be very good physical therapy starting a few days after surgery. And I'm sure I'll have a wrist brace to help me with proper form. 🙁
If anyone cares I'll update this as a record of my experience with it, but as I said it's a big YMMV deal. (I might even throw in a gnarly picture or two if possible.) Any veterans of this have anything to share?
 
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Dude, I'm sorry for your pain. Please keep updating. I'm ten years your junior, but have an appointment next week with a specialist. Only pain in the wrist/thumb for now, but it has become enough of an issue to seek a professional opinion. Between now and then I have a rehearsal and 2 concerts this weekend of an ambitious orchestral program. Ibuprofen will hopefully get me through it!
 
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Do you guys go to orthopedic surgeon that specializes in arm/wrists? Or do you see a more general doctor first?

I'm a bit younger than you guys but experiencing numbness and pain in my left hand as well, primarily thumb and first 2 fingers. Not all the time, just when I twist or flex a certain way (and fortunately not at all while playing bass, for now...)
 
Dude, I'm sorry for your pain. Please keep updating. I'm ten years your junior, but have an appointment next week with a specialist. Only pain in the wrist/thumb for now, but it has become enough of an issue to seek a professional opinion. Between now and then I have a rehearsal and 2 concerts this weekend of an ambitious orchestral program. Ibuprofen will hopefully get me through it!
Good luck brother. I’ll update. Ibuprofen has been so weird for me as it will occasionally help but usually not.
 
Do you guys go to orthopedic surgeon that specializes in arm/wrists? Or do you see a more general doctor first?

I'm a bit younger than you guys but experiencing numbness and pain in my left hand as well, primarily thumb and first 2 fingers. Not all the time, just when I twist or flex a certain way (and fortunately not at all while playing bass, for now...)
My general practitioner referred me to a hand specialist first, who sent me to a neurologist for the nerve tests. When I originally was experiencing just hand numbness it would never happen while I was playing, only while sitting watching tv or whatever. Then suddenly during a gig my hand went numb, and 3 nights later it hit full force during the night as I described.
 
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Mine raised its ugly head in the middle of a festival gig. Both hands numb and tingling like mad. I thought I was having a heart attack.
Then.....the night pains. Jeez Louise.
Doc sent me to a neurologist who sent electronic signals down my arms to my fingers to see how much voltage it took to move my fingers involuntarily.
Diagnosis...severe. 40 years of playing 4 nights a week and turning wrenches 5 days a week.
I hope your insurance fast tracks the surgery for you without the "try everything else first"
B.S. Wearing splints, Physical therapy, yada yada.
Mine did.
 
Mine raised its ugly head in the middle of a festival gig. Both hands numb and tingling like mad. I thought I was having a heart attack.
Then.....the night pains. Jeez Louise.
Doc sent me to a neurologist who sent electronic signals down my arms to my fingers to see how much voltage it took to move my fingers involuntarily.
Diagnosis...severe. 40 years of playing 4 nights a week and turning wrenches 5 days a week.
I hope your insurance fast tracks the surgery for you without the "try everything else first"
B.S. Wearing splints, Physical therapy, yada yada.
Mine did.
LOL I wasn't even going to describe the nerve tests because I was afraid I had already freaked people out! Absolutely the most uncomfortable medical procedure I've ever endured, (especially the needles in the thumbs), but the doc was fantastic and had me distracted and laughing the whole time as we did movie trivia, even giving me extra shocks for wrong answers! Then as I was thanking God as he was disconnecting my left arm, he says "Oh slow down, we're going to do the right arm too.". Which we did, might as well since I ws there.
Yes, all the insurance stuff is laid out ready to go. So you are good now?
 
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I had both hands and an elbow done.
One hand and elbow, a few months later the other hand. It took me three weeks to heal on the hand elbow one to get back to playing. A week and a half for the other one before I got back to playing, only because I didn't have a gig until then 👍
Yeah man! That's what I like to hear.
 
LOL I wasn't even going to describe the nerve tests because I was afraid I had already freaked people out! Absolutely the most uncomfortable medical procedure I've ever endured, (especially the needles in the thumbs), but the doc was fantastic and had me distracted and laughing the whole time as we did movie trivia, even giving me extra shocks for wrong answers! Then as I was thanking God as he was disconnecting my left arm, he says "Oh slow down, we're going to do the right arm too.". Which we did, might as well since I ws there.
Yes, all the insurance stuff is laid out ready to go. So you are good now?
Yeah, all good. Whole new set of problems nowadays!
I had both hands and an elbow done.
One hand and elbow, a few months later the other hand. It took me three weeks to heal on the hand elbow one to get back to playing. A week and a half for the other one before I got back to playing, only because I didn't have a gig until then 👍
Playing bass was the least of my concerns. Being able to wipe my...well, you know.
 
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I had to switch to the floating thumb technique. It still bothers me, but not as bad. Something you can try before you have surgery.
Mine is too severe. If it only bothered me when I played that’d be cool, but this is constant pain, and any brace or splint I’ve tried actually makes it worse.
 
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As I just wrote in a thread about light or heavy bows, I have arthritis and tendonitis in both hands and wrists (which I know is different from Carpal Tunnel, but I have gone through many of the same test; my surgery involved replace 5 vertebrae in my neck with a ladder of titanium pins 10+ years ago; it was 6 months for me before I could touch a bass)... Anyway...

I have an unsupported, unscientific theory about strings (esp for left hand; I play arco/classical, so right hand pizz wasn't the issue) that "low tension" strings actually cause more problems than they solve: Corellis, Spiro Solos etc-- the actual thinness of the metal wire against the fingertips (at least in my case) aggravated the nerve up to my neck etc; Fatter synthetic (or in my case, gut) strings - which are obviously low tension as well - have more of a cushion effect against the nerve. Like I said, totally unscientific, but works for me. Good luck!
 
I had carpal tunnel release surgery in both hands (in the palm), 1 year apart, 10 or 11 years ago. I too had failed that miserable nerve test, and my damage was assessed as “severe”. It was just a bit more elaborate a procedure back then and they used general anesthesia, not local, which I appreciated! I was back on the gig in 2-3 weeks each time and I haven't had so much as a tingle since. I hope yours is as successful!
 

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