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6x10" cabinet question

#4
IME/IMO...it's overkill for rehearsal, and in small gig situations...

- For rehearsal, I use a 1x15...it's low to the ground, so I can use it as a seat too...lol
- For small club gigs, I use mostly a 2x12 (which is really more than I need also)
- For larger clubs/venues/festivals, I will use a 6x10, or a 4x10, or a combination of other stuff...

Why would you need to move that much air in either of those situations? Rehearsal is for working on new material, solidifying bumpy areas in songs, changing/correcting parts, etc...Sometimes you need to be able to communicate while working on those parts/songs, and again IMO, volume should stay at a level to allow this communication.

Secondly, real estate in a small club situation is typically a big problem...lugging a 6x10 into a small club can also irritate club managers and owners (not that they are my friends or anything...but they do write the checks)...and cause setup problems with other band members.

I'm sure a lot of people will disagree, and that's cool...but I have a 6x10 that I only bring out once in a while when we do large venues or festival gigs...never to small clubs or rehearsal
 
#7
flipping it on it's side can cause even worse real estate issues though...

I'm not saying it wouldn't sound good, or that you can't turn it down to appropriate levels for the room...but the questions was "do you think it's overkill?"...and yea, I think it is...
 
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fishtx said:
IME/IMO...it's overkill for rehearsal, and in small gig situations...

- For rehearsal, I use a 1x15...it's low to the ground, so I can use it as a seat too...lol
- For small club gigs, I use mostly a 2x12 (which is really more than I need also)
- For larger clubs/venues/festivals, I will use a 6x10, or a 4x10, or a combination of other stuff...

Why would you need to move that much air in either of those situations? Rehearsal is for working on new material, solidifying bumpy areas in songs, changing/correcting parts, etc...Sometimes you need to be able to communicate while working on those parts/songs, and again IMO, volume should stay at a level to allow this communication.

Secondly, real estate in a small club situation is typically a big problem...lugging a 6x10 into a small club can also irritate club managers and owners (not that they are my friends or anything...but they do write the checks)...and cause setup problems with other band members.

I'm sure a lot of people will disagree, and that's cool...but I have a 6x10 that I only bring out once in a while when we do large venues or festival gigs...never to small clubs or rehearsal
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+1 here. For practice/rehearsals I just use my Shuttle 1X10 combo and it is plenty loud. From my experience, you have to get the volume up so high to get a good tone with a large rig. That is really overkill for rehearsals and small venues. IMHO.
 
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Jazzman said:
I have used the NV610 for very low volume venues and even jazz. If it looks silly to have a large amp sitting there, I simply flip it on its side...nobody is the wiser. ;)
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I had my NV610 with me when I played a fairly quiet sub gig at a small bar. I flipped the cab on its side. I told the guitarist he could stack his combo amp on my cab. He did, and was grateful: it saved room on the small stage and he could hear himself better. There was also enough room on top for my rack rig.

Volume wasn't a problem: the NV610 sounds as good quiet as it does loud!
 
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fishtx said:
flipping it on it's side can cause even worse real estate issues though...

I'm not saying it wouldn't sound good, or that you can't turn it down to appropriate levels for the room...but the questions was "do you think it's overkill?"...and yea, I think it is...
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wouldnt a 4x10 or a 1x15 made to stack have about the same footprint as an equivalent 6x10?
 
#14
MarkMyWordsXx said:
wouldnt a 4x10 or a 1x15 made to stack have about the same footprint as an equivalent 6x10?
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sure they could...but thats not the topic here...the OP ask If we thought a 6x10 was overkill in small clubs...I gave a couple of reasons why I answered the way I did...Only one of those reasons was real estate.

Again, he ask for opinions...If you feel a 6x10 in a small club/venue situation is not overkill...thats OK with me...rock on...
 
#15
Any place that requires more than a 4x10 is going to have a PA system so it just will not matter, in my experience. And the 4x10 will give you the volume you need on stage...

I mean I am sure there must be an exception, but I have never run into it?

Anybody ever played a place with a 4x10 and though "damn.. I wish I had my 8x10... this isn't going to be loud enough!!!"

I have used 1 10 before (no way), or 2 15's (too muddy) before, and I didn't like that...

And I have used 8x10's / 6x10's at clubs... but I don't notice much difference from a good 4x10 to be honest, I'm more worried about the head at that point.
 
#16
fishtx said:
Again, he ask for opinions...If you feel a 6x10 in a small club/venue situation is not overkill...thats OK with me...rock on...
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I guess it's overkill to buy a 6x10 if the only gigs you ever plan on playing are small ones: this because of the weight, mostly. But if you also play medium to large gigs, then there's nothing wrong with using a 6x10 for all of 'em. A big cab can be as quiet as a small cab.

That said, I hesitate to bring my 6x10 to small gigs for the simple reason that bandmates/management might freak out about a cab that large: "Whoa, we don't do heavy metal in here, Skippy!" :rolleyes: :p
 
#17
Fuzzbass said:
I guess it's overkill to buy a 6x10 if the only gigs you ever plan on playing are small ones: this because of the weight, mostly. But if you also play medium to large gigs, then there's nothing wrong with using a 6x10 for all of 'em. A big cab can be as quiet as a small cab.

That said, I hesitate to bring my 6x10 to small gigs for the simple reason that bandmates/management might freak out about a cab that large: "Whoa, we don't do heavy metal in here, Skippy!" :rolleyes: :p
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agreed...
 
#18
If transporting it is not a problem for you then the 6x10 is the way to go. If it is too loud turn it down. I've done gigs with 2x10, 4x10, 6x10, 8x10, 1x12, 1x15 and every combination you can think of. They have just about the same footprint. My rig right now is an SVT 4 PRO with a goliath SR. I use it for parties in people's houses, all size clubs, outdoor festivals, and reception halls.
 
#19
troyus said:
Any place that requires more than a 4x10 is going to have a PA system so it just will not matter, in my experience. And the 4x10 will give you the volume you need on stage...

I mean I am sure there must be an exception, but I have never run into it?

Anybody ever played a place with a 4x10 and though "damn.. I wish I had my 8x10... this isn't going to be loud enough!!!"

I have used 1 10 before (no way), or 2 15's (too muddy) before, and I didn't like that...

And I have used 8x10's / 6x10's at clubs... but I don't notice much difference from a good 4x10 to be honest, I'm more worried about the head at that point.
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Yes I have brought one 4x10 and wished I'd brought two. I've brought two and unplugged one. I brought a Berg IP310 to an outside gig with nothing behind us, PA just for vocals and it was unbelievable.

It was also outstanding but so where we, and so is a farmer in his field.:eek::rollno::):)
 

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