I'm asking because I'm looking to invest in some new speakers here soon. Also, which brand would you go for?
Enjoy the benefits of a premium membership!
Upgrade Account
-
TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
Join free Log in
Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.
8x10 or two 4x10?
- Thread starter armywalaby
- Start date
What kind of transportation are you working with/where are you going to have to haul it?
I was going to sell my 810 because i was having to take it up and down stairs which is annoying. But i no longer need to do that.
I would look into Aguilar.
I was going to sell my 810 because i was having to take it up and down stairs which is annoying. But i no longer need to do that.
I would look into Aguilar.
Well, the apartment I'm moving into next year I won't have to worry about going up a bunch of stairs and **** as far as load in/load out. I was considering the bonuses of 2 4x10, I could do some pan delay stuff.....I guess I should also mention that the purchase before this one would be an Eden Navigator. I was just wondering what the differences in sound would be between the two configs of speaker cabinets.
I speak from Ampeg experience only.
The 810 that I have blows away any Ampeg 410 I've ever tried, tonewise. I dig the nearly limitless volume as well.
The 810 that I have blows away any Ampeg 410 I've ever tried, tonewise. I dig the nearly limitless volume as well.
Depends really on the brand, because several 410's can go lower than the same series 810. 410's have more variety tone wise, while 810's seems to have one massive tone all the time. Then again, it changes brand to brand.
Two 410's could be annoying to carry compared to one 810 depending on how far you need to move. Fitting these cabs in a car - 810 would fit easily if there is enough space.
I would suggest 2 410's so you can have the option of using one cab or both - different volume requirements will be met. With an 810, unless you can use the top only, is just loud all the time.
I feel just about any 810 can fit any genre of music. Ampeg 810's do great for punk, rock, rap, even country bands. What tone are you going for? Music you play?
Two 410's could be annoying to carry compared to one 810 depending on how far you need to move. Fitting these cabs in a car - 810 would fit easily if there is enough space.
I would suggest 2 410's so you can have the option of using one cab or both - different volume requirements will be met. With an 810, unless you can use the top only, is just loud all the time.
I feel just about any 810 can fit any genre of music. Ampeg 810's do great for punk, rock, rap, even country bands. What tone are you going for? Music you play?
Not true. My 810 fits in the back seat of my Mercury Sable. I remember another TB'er posting that he used to put his 810 in his VW beetle with the seat folded down.
It takes a little creative packing, but once it's in there I can ride comfortably with the driver or passenger seat all the way back.
I agree with the notion that you can get creative with transporting the 8x10 if you really want it. Two 4x10's never sound the same as a single 8x10 cabinet.
Not on either side of this, so I'm just gonna think out loud.
I have owned in the 10" cabs category
Ampeg 8x10 x1
Ampeg 4x10 HLF x1
Mesa Boogie 4x10 Powerhouse x2
Davi Eden 4x10 XLT x1
It has been a while since I had the 8x10 cab.
To me the Ampeg HLF Cab will go lower than the 8x10 cab and is louder than most 4x10's. Two of the HLF Cabs should be way more massive than the 8x10. The 8x10 does sound good though like someone else said they have that old scholl sound and thats it. When I was around 15 I fell down a flight of stairs with my then brand new Ampeg 8x10 cab and I can tell you it just aint worth it from that perspective. The little 4x10 HLF Cab is massive sounding and easy to move. I also should say I currently own 1x Ampeg 4x10 HLF and 1x Mesa Boogie 4x10 Powerhouse and the Boogie is extremly hard to move. It's bulky, heavy, and just downright hard to handle.
I have owned in the 10" cabs category
Ampeg 8x10 x1
Ampeg 4x10 HLF x1
Mesa Boogie 4x10 Powerhouse x2
Davi Eden 4x10 XLT x1
It has been a while since I had the 8x10 cab.
To me the Ampeg HLF Cab will go lower than the 8x10 cab and is louder than most 4x10's. Two of the HLF Cabs should be way more massive than the 8x10. The 8x10 does sound good though like someone else said they have that old scholl sound and thats it. When I was around 15 I fell down a flight of stairs with my then brand new Ampeg 8x10 cab and I can tell you it just aint worth it from that perspective. The little 4x10 HLF Cab is massive sounding and easy to move. I also should say I currently own 1x Ampeg 4x10 HLF and 1x Mesa Boogie 4x10 Powerhouse and the Boogie is extremly hard to move. It's bulky, heavy, and just downright hard to handle.
I've had many versions of cabs with 10's and my experience is that an 8X10 is MUCH easier to move than 4X10's if the 8X10 has casters. The old Ampeg squarebacks are a challenge, and I use a hand truck for that. But my tilt-back 8X10s are a breeze to move. 4X10s to me are back breakers, they require too much bending and pulling at weird angles.
middle ground it and go for a 6x10. Do a search for a gallien kreuger, i'm sure i've seen one with a set of wheels and a handle to tilt it back and roll it in a similar fashion to having the hand trolley thing
I should clarify.
That is why I was saying the HLF is so easy to move not only is it small and light it has the tilt back handle and wheels which make it very easy to move.
I can see how the 8x10 (while rolling it) would allow for a straighter back but eventually you have to pick it up and load it in a vehicle.
That is why I was saying the HLF is so easy to move not only is it small and light it has the tilt back handle and wheels which make it very easy to move.
I can see how the 8x10 (while rolling it) would allow for a straighter back but eventually you have to pick it up and load it in a vehicle.
I've owned Ampeg SVT 8x10's and SWR Goliath III 4x10 cabs and prefer the Goliath III's. I currently use two.
The SVT cabs are cool and were the first serious cabs to use 10's. They have a classic sound but they're very scooped and can sound quite muddy - especially with modern heads and active basses.
I really like the sound of a 70's SVT rig with a passive bass like a Rick, P or Jazz. But for my Spector Euro 4LX basses I prefer modern 4x10 cabs like the Goliath III. I'm currently using a Peavey VB-2 head and it sounds kickass.
NEVER 8*10.
There is, IMO, IME, never a place big enough that would require an 8*10 cab but would not have a good PA setup which was appropriate for that room that would allow you to use a smaller cab with PA/sound reinforcement, via DI connection. And I've used 8*10 in backline which was provided for me at gigs at more than one occasion. I always thought it was overkill, and I always specify no more than one 4*10 on my band riders and so on.
Brand? Who cares. Sound? That's what matters. Let your ear be the judge.
Best to you.
You are obviously getting a ton of different opinions here. Personally, I loved my Ampeg 810 but I sold it because I lived in a situation that involved too many stairs. To me an SVT head and the 810 were a perfect marriage and just sounded great even at low volumes.
You have to remember the Ampeg 810 is a sealed cab with no horn, and most 410s are ported with horns. To me this makes a big difference depending on what head you are using.
I own an Eden Nav as well and two Aguilar GS112s were my favorite cabs paired with that head. I also really love my Epifani UL 410 with it.
410s may go deeper and higher and give you that ported cab sound, but to me the 810 sits right in the mix where a good bass tone should. I like a lot of cabs and the best advice is usually to go out and experiment with as many as possible yourself.
You have to remember the Ampeg 810 is a sealed cab with no horn, and most 410s are ported with horns. To me this makes a big difference depending on what head you are using.
I own an Eden Nav as well and two Aguilar GS112s were my favorite cabs paired with that head. I also really love my Epifani UL 410 with it.
410s may go deeper and higher and give you that ported cab sound, but to me the 810 sits right in the mix where a good bass tone should. I like a lot of cabs and the best advice is usually to go out and experiment with as many as possible yourself.
You guys have been very helpful! I think I may ultimately end up going with a 4x10 and a 2x10. Who knows though, this purchase is at most six months away....
