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A Church Setting

#42
I don't know how I slept through this thread but I believe that I have something to contribute. First I must state that I love the Lord and that I am a Chrirstian. It was a very patient church and Minister of Music that brought me back to playing the Bass after I put the instrument down for twenty years. Today my ministry is to play the Bass and spead the gospel through my music. That being said I find myself palying in many different environments. The equipment that you get should reflect your palying situation. I am in Central Florida and play for a Church as well as a Gospel chior and a gospel group that performs what we call quartet singing. Now I am in Orlando but I often find myself playing in rural settings. In this context Central Florida is the deep south. Becasue I play for working chiors I am often on what was once known as the "Chitlinn Circuit" which means that one day I could be palying at a mega church and the next day in a store front in a shopping center. I have played outdoors, in small unairconditioned churches with the windows open (did I mention that I am in Central Florida) on the same day. For example Friday I am playing in Webster Florida, Saturday in Winter Garden Florida and Sunday both in Winter Garden and Ocala. The music that we play if catagorized would be Jazz, fusion R&B Blues type of thing. In the context that we play it it gets somewhat intense ( re: loud). Very seldom do I have the opportunity to go direct into a P.A., often there is not even a P.A., present and most certailnly not one that would be sufficient to handle Bass frequencies. Additionally, I generally have little idea of the acuostics of any venue until I get there - I have played in large churches with terrible acoustics and small ones with great and visa versa - often as well the quality of the sound people that are present at any given venue varys widely. Given these demands I have opted for a light but powerfull head ( in my case a GK 1001RB) coupled with a series of cabnets that I interchange depending on the demands of venue - smaller venues I couple the 1001 with a 2 x 10 Hartke transporter - Medium venues or if I am in doubt as to the acoustics I bring a 1 x 15 Gk cab that I put an Emenence Delta 15 into ( My job is lay some really heavy bottom frequencies) with the 1001RB. If I am playing somewhere big or outdoors I simply take both cabnets and run them together. I also on occasion play in small night clubs and restuarants which are extremely sensative venues volume wise (the requirement is to play softly) and for that I just bring the GK head with Hartke Cab and keep evertything down low. My recommendation is to have more than enough power and control it than to little and try to push it. Also I am very sensative as to where I place my rig always to the back of the venue behind the singers P.A. speakers etc and always behind me - given the acoustics of a place I have even played with the cab turned backward facing a wall ( very effective) - as close to the drummer as possible - an additional consideration is your audiance (if we are playing before a more conservative (pretentious/sophisticted/stuck up or whatever adjective you want to use) then our playing volume and otherwise is more subdued. In the alternative if we are palying for a worship service were people are taliking in tounges and dancing and engaged in a less subdued spiritual experience then are playing is less sudued. Certainly I would love to just have a small combo to play through but my situation is such where that is just not practicle. So my advise would be study and figure out your playing circumstances first and let that dictate your selection.
 
#43
jaxlaw said:
I don't know how I slept through this thread but I believe that I have something to contribute. First I must state that I love the Lord and that I am a Chrirstian. It was a very patient church and Minister of Music that brought me back to playing the Bass after I put the instrument down for twenty years. Today my ministry is to play the Bass and spead the gospel through my music. That being said I find myself palying in many different environments. The equipment that you get should reflect your palying situation. I am in Central Florida and play for a Church as well as a Gospel chior and a gospel group that performs what we call quartet singing. Now I am in Orlando but I often find myself playing in rural settings. In this context Central Florida is the deep south. Becasue I play for working chiors I am often on what was once known as the "Chitlinn Circuit" which means that one day I could be palying at a mega church and the next day in a store front in a shopping center. I have played outdoors, in small unairconditioned churches with the windows open (did I mention that I am in Central Florida) on the same day. For example Friday I am playing in Webster Florida, Saturday in Winter Garden Florida and Sunday both in Winter Garden and Ocala. The music that we play if catagorized would be Jazz, fusion R&B Blues type of thing. In the context that we play it it gets somewhat intense ( re: loud). Very seldom do I have the opportunity to go direct into a P.A., often there is not even a P.A., present and most certailnly not one that would be sufficient to handle Bass frequencies. Additionally, I generally have little idea of the acuostics of any venue until I get there - I have played in large churches with terrible acoustics and small ones with great and visa versa - often as well the quality of the sound people that are present at any given venue varys widely. Given these demands I have opted for a light but powerfull head ( in my case a GK 1001RB) coupled with a series of cabnets that I interchange depending on the demands of venue - smaller venues I couple the 1001 with a 2 x 10 Hartke transporter - Medium venues or if I am in doubt as to the acoustics I bring a 1 x 15 Gk cab that I put an Emenence Delta 15 into ( My job is lay some really heavy bottom frequencies) with the 1001RB. If I am playing somewhere big or outdoors I simply take both cabnets and run them together. I also on occasion play in small night clubs and restuarants which are extremely sensative venues volume wise (the requirement is to play softly) and for that I just bring the GK head with Hartke Cab and keep evertything down low. My recommendation is to have more than enough power and control it than to little and try to push it. Also I am very sensative as to where I place my rig always to the back of the venue behind the singers P.A. speakers etc and always behind me - given the acoustics of a place I have even played with the cab turned backward facing a wall ( very effective) - as close to the drummer as possible - an additional consideration is your audiance (if we are playing before a more conservative (pretentious/sophisticted/stuck up or whatever adjective you want to use) then our playing volume and otherwise is more subdued. In the alternative if we are palying for a worship service were people are taliking in tounges and dancing and engaged in a less subdued spiritual experience then are playing is less sudued. Certainly I would love to just have a small combo to play through but my situation is such where that is just not practicle. So my advise would be study and figure out your playing circumstances first and let that dictate your selection.
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Good post....sage advice here as far as flexilbility and did I mention HEADROOM....hehe
 
#45
Thank you everyone for great answers. :crying:
This one was my first post in talkbass forum and I didn't expect to see nice and knowledge people who are willing to answer a question. I thank you and I decided to go with

Fender Bassman® 250/210 Bass Combo

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=42/g=bass/search/detail/base_id/120860

At first, I didn't know what people were saying when they say

Heads, Cabinets, or Combos

But, now I get it :hyper:

We are going to use this speaker as stage monitor for bass player himself and use XLR out to the mixer. Having heads, cabinets separately are too much for us.

Once again, I thank you for your kindness.

Proverb 16:9
 
#47
wesleypak said:
Thank you everyone for great answers. :crying:
This one was my first post in talkbass forum and I didn't expect to see nice and knowledge people who are willing to answer a question. I thank you and I decided to go with

Fender Bassman® 250/210 Bass Combo

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=42/g=bass/search/detail/base_id/120860

At first, I didn't know what people were saying when they say

Heads, Cabinets, or Combos

But, now I get it :hyper:

We are going to use this speaker as stage monitor for bass player himself and use XLR out to the mixer. Having heads, cabinets separately are too much for us.

Once again, I thank you for your kindness.

Proverb 16:9
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Nice choice Wesleypak!
 
#49
wesleypak said:
Thank you everyone for great answers. :crying:
This one was my first post in talkbass forum and I didn't expect to see nice and knowledge people who are willing to answer a question. I thank you and I decided to go with

Fender Bassman® 250/210 Bass Combo

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=42/g=bass/search/detail/base_id/120860

At first, I didn't know what people were saying when they say

Heads, Cabinets, or Combos

But, now I get it :hyper:

We are going to use this speaker as stage monitor for bass player himself and use XLR out to the mixer. Having heads, cabinets separately are too much for us.

Once again, I thank you for your kindness.

Proverb 16:9
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Great choice Wesley......plenty of power for smaller venues as a stand alone (can you say Youth Outreach? Cool.....) plus excellent sound on the stage for you. Well done......
 

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