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A heretical revelation?

The most common response to things on TB these days is "It depends."
There isn't one answer for everything.
If the composition isn't bass focused and the bassists isn't doing much, you're right, what gear they use isn't terribly consequential. However, there are bands where the specifics of the bass tone are as integral to the sound of the band as the guitar tone or singers voice.
If the OP finds that they don't need anything wow for their writing, that's great for them. That has 0 implications for me or a lot of what I listen to, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.
 
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We are all pawns of the bass market. I try to think of it as just another marketing scheme. As humans, we don't need bass guitars to survive, nor do we need all of the tweaks and bells and whistles to our "sound." But we go for it anyway. Why? We have been made to think that we DO need these things. It's the bass player's market that leads us to this. Sure, we CHOOSE to buy into it. But the market is a huge manipulator.
 
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The more songwriting and production I do, the less I think any of the little tweaks, mods, EQ's, active vs passive, really matter. Of course they may matter to us bassists while we're playing because we're focused on them, but in the grand scheme of the recording or the gig not really. When I step back from strictly being the bassist and look at the bigger picture, I feel like I was chasing the wind and spending $$$ for nothing.
I just want to make clear I'm not trolling on custom basses or anything, any tool that lets you expand your technique is well worth it, but someone getting a new Fender AVRI and immediately thinking of the perfect mod, or an amp with graphic AND parametric EQ, and shape, etc.?
It seems like buying into an unnecessary mindset that may even block creativity because the focus is on the minor equipment tweak you DON'T have rather than everything else.
Thoughts?
You're correct! Now if you could get my guitarist who constantly interrupts sets to switch guitars for "strat songs" and "les Paul songs" to understand this...
 
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We are all pawns of the bass market. I try to think of it as just another marketing scheme. As humans, we don't need bass guitars to survive, nor do we need all of the tweaks and bells and whistles to our "sound." But we go for it anyway. Why? We have been made to think that we DO need these things. It's the bass player's market that leads us to this. Sure, we CHOOSE to buy into it. But the market is a huge manipulator.
No, I am not. And yes, I do need a bass to survive, as it is one of my passions. That may change over time, but right now I love basses, bass gear, sound equipment, etc. so as one of my hobbies, it is something I use to relieve stress and therefore is a 'need'. No, I'm not going to get into a discussion about the pyramid of needs (like food, shelter, etc.). I am definitely not a pawn as I do not buy any new gear (although I'd pick up a GK Plex if I had the spare change). One could say I'm subject to the local used market in my area as that has had the strongest influence on what I have bought recently. I also just discovered LetGo and OfferUp - two great apps to feed my habit!

Raz
 
The more songwriting and production I do, the less I think any of the little tweaks, mods, EQ's, active vs passive, really matter. Of course they may matter to us bassists while we're playing because we're focused on them, but in the grand scheme of the recording or the gig not really. When I step back from strictly being the bassist and look at the bigger picture, I feel like I was chasing the wind and spending $$$ for nothing.
I just want to make clear I'm not trolling on custom basses or anything, any tool that lets you expand your technique is well worth it, but someone getting a new Fender AVRI and immediately thinking of the perfect mod, or an amp with graphic AND parametric EQ, and shape, etc.?
It seems like buying into an unnecessary mindset that may even block creativity because the focus is on the minor equipment tweak you DON'T have rather than everything else.
Thoughts?
I'm a gear-head. Personally, I would much rather be playing a bass I like & enjoy, through equipment I also like, then stuff that I don't care for or doesn't sound good. I find it much easier to put passion into my playing with equipment I like than equipment I don't like.
 
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No, I am not. And yes, I do need a bass to survive, as it is one of my passions. That may change over time, but right now I love basses, bass gear, sound equipment, etc. so as one of my hobbies, it is something I use to relieve stress and therefore is a 'need'. No, I'm not going to get into a discussion about the pyramid of needs (like food, shelter, etc.). I am definitely not a pawn as I do not buy any new gear (although I'd pick up a GK Plex if I had the spare change). One could say I'm subject to the local used market in my area as that has had the strongest influence on what I have bought recently. I also just discovered LetGo and OfferUp - two great apps to feed my habit!

Raz

You may think you are not a pawn. But one day you will wake up with a radio transmitter at the base of your skull. It will be installed by Fender.
 
It's true that a simple bass plugged into the console can get it done to a degree. I suppose it all depends on your wants. For myself I consider the bass part to be as crucial as the vocals in a track. Great tracks will have a luscious bass tone and bounce and it will affect you physically. Other tracks simply have a bass that you can hear. There IS a difference even if the big difference is the players fingers and how he (or she) uses them. It may be subtle but it makes a huge difference in the end. Money spent in this pursuit ( if spent wisely) is well spent.
 
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We are all pawns of the bass market. I try to think of it as just another marketing scheme. As humans, we don't need bass guitars to survive, nor do we need all of the tweaks and bells and whistles to our "sound." But we go for it anyway. Why? We have been made to think that we DO need these things. It's the bass player's market that leads us to this. Sure, we CHOOSE to buy into it. But the market is a huge manipulator.
Repeat after me:

"Alex Jones is an entertainer, not an investigative journalist."
 
Don't take my word for it. Look in the bass media for info on what your favorite players do to get their recorded sound. If they and their records are featured in one they usually ask how they got their sound. You can read as many as you want and almost never see one that says they just went straight off the pickups into the console. Not saying it doesn't happen, just not often. People go to elaborate lengths. I have lately been using a Rupert Neve RNDI and a compressor before going into a Neve module or API. I use this on active and passive basses. Not too fancy but sweet and much more delicious than straight off the pups.
 
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