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A lil disappointed with fender :(

#21
Having had the opportunity to A/B both basses I found they both have things I like and don't like. I prefer the 12" radius of the squier neck over the 9.5 of the fender, but like the feel of rosewood better than ebanol. The electronics, hardware and body wood get the nod on the fender but I like the control lay out of the squier better. Out of the box the fender comes with better strings (IMO). For me the squier is the more comfortable player but the fender sounds better to my ears. (YMMV)
Ultimately it's usually budget that gets the final say in these things.....GAS is such a pain...lol
 
#22
well I see a lot of different things on the basses... could be just me...

and almost identical hardware:
Tuners: most tuners look the same... yet some go for 10$ and some go for 100$, just because it looks the same doesn't mean they are...

Pick-ups: Seymour Duncans or Fender/Squier makes a bit of a difference, maybe you can't hear it in a store, but try it on stage or in a studio or on high volume...

Pre-amp: just because they have the same controls, it doesn't mean they are the same... there are loads of cheap pre-amps, they all have the same layout as their more expensive brothers, doesn't mean they are equal, again: try it on stage or in a studio or on high volume...

Bridge: my eyes may be fooling me.. but the Fender has through body stringing, so the bridge isn't the same, not at all and would also require more work...

Body: body woods are pretty different....

So the "almost identical" and they sound the same... well if you say so... I don't really agree...
 
#23
Lots of valid points here, i agree with most of them, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BASSES MADE OVERSEAS, i just thnk that 800 is a little too much, Im sorry but i dare anyone to do a blind test between this two basses. actually i feel that the preamp on my squier works better than on the Fender, and the slap switch makes you sound better.
I paid 300 dollars for my bass.. and i didnt get what i paid for. I got a heck of a deal because my bass plays like a 800 bucks bass. But thats just my opinion (and some others)

Seriously i dont care about a brand on my headstock, and im not saying the fender is bad, i just think they could at least buid it in mexico because there is one think we all know.
This bass is not worth $800
 
#24
Because theirs a large part of the population (here included) who simply play a bass because it has Fender on it and believe that because it has that name on it that it's better and worth more then a Squier, or Ibanez, or Yamaha, or Schecter or whatever other bass may be be better playing than that Official Squier that Fender put it's logo on.

Unfortunately there's people who are blind to a Label vs the quality of a product in all parts of society. And manufacturers also unfortunately take advantage of this tendency to turn a quick buck.
 
#25
BTW i played an american standard p and i was pretty surprised with the quality, and probably worth the money.
And i think that if fender is going to start building basses overseas, they should start putting the Squier brand on it, not because basses made in korea or indonesia arent good, just because is way cheaper and we all know that
 
#26
what I dont get is this...the 24 fret jazz has the chunkiest neck ever. totally useless? Is this to help sell the american basses? But even the american basses have chunky necks..

my squier has a chunky'ish neck, but for what I paid, I have no problem sanding it down. Ill wear it out before I sell it...
 
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chicago_mike said:
what I dont get is this...the 24 fret jazz has the chunkiest neck ever. totally useless? Is this to help sell the american basses? But even the american basses have chunky necks..

my squier has a chunky'ish neck, but for what I paid, I have no problem sanding it down. Ill wear it out before I sell it...
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just because it's useless for you, doesn't mean it's useless for every one... same with setups, just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it's crap...
 
#28
I tried one of the 24-fret MIK Fender Jazz basses once and it really didn't do it for me as far as both tone and playability goes (and I'm far from a Fender-hater, look at my profile gear list) especially considering the price. At $800 you're getting into some American-built Fender that's used or a Geddy Lee model. I guess if you need the 24 frets and/or the slap contour thingy, then go for it, but otherwise there are better choices in the Fender product line. IMHO of course.
 
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BobKos said:
Something you know I should look out for?
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Alignment and wood quality. The neck wood in my new AS Jazz is atrocious. I imagine I'll shake down a new neck from them or dump it.

For decades, Fender maintained (correctly) that neck-pocket slack was a non-issue, but after seeing so much user yammering about it, they tightened the fit which results in less wiggle room for alignment, so some of the body-mounted hardware is more likely to be off-center. Mine is.

The American Standards have notional "improved features" that make no sense relative to each other or are just pointless. It's like they were listening to too many stupid focus groups made up of idiot forum bums. :rollno:

I would have much preferred the American at less money, but none were available at the time. By my standards, the American is a better bass.

I also hate the new cases, which seem cheap and crude to me. Call me an unreconstructed Orwellian, but I am not slavishly grateful for improved government passkey access to my gear.
 
#32
Anybody know if the Indonesian version if these are as trustworthy as the Korean?? I have no problems with my Korean deluxe 24 jazz 4 string tge tone is so punchy and even! I love it, but Im a 5 string guy... I just bought a 5 not even knowing it was made in Indonesia! Ugh!
 
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Jay-Double-You said:
In the description it is always mentioned where the bass is produced, so you should have known it. It does not say anything about the quality. I own a Squier Classic Vibe Jazz bass, made in Indonesian. The quality is really good of my instrument.
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It was a FB sale no mention... there was a pic of the back of the head stock... but I never knew they were made in two different places until I got on a couple of TB threads... so I didn't look hard until last night...
 

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