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A song that literally gave you chills
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Wow, pretty harsh. A national treasure in my world, Levon especially. And I'm not even the biggest fan of them or Dylan(Lou Reed speaks to me more)but I could never deny Dylan's legacy. During their heyday, I was far more interested in British guys playing through Marshall stacks than old looking guys with beards, playing through tweed Fenders, but their greatness finally caught up with me.
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Wonderful - Everclear
When the album came out, a buddy tossed me this track and simply said, "You'll get it." Growing up as a child in a divorced/split household, I was immediately grabbed by the lyrics "I want the things that I had before, like the Star Wars poster on the bedroom door" because that was me (and I still miss that poster, although it was Empire Strikes Back). It took me years before I could listen to the song without breaking down and crying.
When the album came out, a buddy tossed me this track and simply said, "You'll get it." Growing up as a child in a divorced/split household, I was immediately grabbed by the lyrics "I want the things that I had before, like the Star Wars poster on the bedroom door" because that was me (and I still miss that poster, although it was Empire Strikes Back). It took me years before I could listen to the song without breaking down and crying.
Like I said in that post, and it may be the key point: "art is hopelessly subjective". Regarding art, everything I said in the post is subjective opinion. Regarding the objective merits and weaknesses of the movie, I'm speaking to quality issues. Lets be frank: When you have to overdub the parts, there was a miss. And for something like this, it is a HUGE miss. It's like a football player going out on the field and forgetting to put on his helmet, or run to the wrong goal.
I also don't reward drug use. Never have and never will. Not even my own.
BTW, yes, Dylan's legacy is very important. It's what I was hinting at when I said his lyrics were beyond his age (years). I've followed some documentaries on how some of his recordings came to be. Very interesting, actually. And there was a lot of "lets throw it against the wall and see what sticks" going on. That's one of the reasons I'm not really all that impressed with his, or any other musician's work. I believe he was a unique individual, just like everybody else. Dylan, Buddy Holly, Muddy Waters, you name it - their claim to fame was being the first. And if they had never been born, someone else would have been first. Not identically, but close enough. Not that they do not deserve some credit for it.
I see it this way: The ancient Romans really brought concrete into the modern world, but after the fall of Rome, the invention was essentially "lost", only to be rediscovered (and patented) in the early 1800's (Portland cement). Everything we sense is a "lego set" waiting for one of us to discover a new way to build with it - being things seen, heard, toched or tasted. If one person doesn't do it, another will. So, though the first one to do it deserves credit for being first, on a "specialness" scale of 1-10, I give it a 4, with saving another person's life getting a 9.
I love this bolded part, because that was me. The movie blew me away at 14, but then I was back to Zep, Cream, Beck, etc. I never explored their music until I was in my 40s, and saw the DVD at the grocery store and thought "I should see that again". Enjoyed it just as much (in spite of what were now, obvious overdubs in places) and then looked into their music in depth.
Ha!
I'll give you "the rest of the story" in my case: I originally bought it on DVD, hated it, researched it on the internet, tried to watch it again and threw it away. Several years later I saw it on Blue Ray for $5 and thought it was time to give it another try. Watched it, hated it. Put it on the shelf for a year, watched it again. Did some more research. Threw it away.
I'm a collector of books, concert videos and documentaries on bands. The whole scene fascinates me. I've even got a ton of them on VHS. The Last Waltz was special, and not in the good way. It actually knocked Scorsese down a couple of notches for me.
The Kids are all right is truly wonderful, as is Pulse, even with it's low quality 90's NTSC video format.
Yeah, being a child of divorce as well, Art's lyrics cut to the bone sometimes. I never really listened to them much as I didn't care for the music itself, but his lyrics are good. This is the one of his that first caught my attention. When I heard it, I was like "that's my life". I imagine you are familiar with it as well:
Um, I know the history, and I didn't mean to imply it sank in lake Erie.
Right in the song it says:
Coming back from mill in Wisconsin...
She left fully loaded for Cleveland
So Ha!! yourself.
2 Frisells, huh? I find that funny because my favorite Derek Truck's track is titled "Frisell." It's so beautiful it's almost surreal! I was really obsessed with that song and did some research to figure who/what Frisell was.
After searching the web for a while I found a snippet paraphrasing something he (according to the poster, so I can't vouch for it) said in an interview explaining that it was a triubute to Bill Frisell and his style.
In a state of exuberance, I rushed online and reserved every Bill Frisell title I could find in my counties library system (this is when I was living in NY, and had access to those services!). I listened to at least 4 CDs and fell into a state of confusion because I simply could not detect much similarity....
Can you please listen to this track and comment on the above? Maybe I'm missing something....
TIA!
OK, I don't consider this "chill inducing" within the meaning of my original post with which I launched this thread, but this song is one of those ethereal stunners that makes you fall to your knees in awe and question whether there is a divine power, (and if there is, why do we only get the most sporadic glimpses of it--and mostly through others?)
Sure, first of all Bill can do Anything, in any style (listen to John Zorn's Naked City albums) but I Do hear some use of the volume pedal and non attack glissandi, a version of what someone might call Bill's style...this may be Derek Truck's most Frizell like lead playing, but I don't hear the chord language of Bill much. Bill learned from Deric Bailey the master of stereo volume pedal spacial note placement. Listening again, it's really more like the great Sonny Sharrock than Bill. I think DT gets Bill's folk song Americana side.
this fits the thread, a masterpiece I almost forgot about with Charnet Moffet bass, Elvin Jones, Pharaoh Sanders
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Right? I aslo find Bill Frisell a little bit more to the "sophisticated" side of the Emotional > Sophisticated spectrum... While I only listened to Bill for a 6 month period, I got the sense that he is more of a Scofield than a Metheny, and is not as keen to wear his heart on his sleeve (or fretboard, in this case
)yeah Bill isn't a pig or drama queen and he lives normally in Seattle, a cool north western city, what Is your point? Probably the most prolific recording jazz artist of the last 25 years, Bill Frizell isn't hired because he keeps his emotions hidden, and his cover choices are romantic and nostalgic, allot of them. check out Just Like A Woman. He makes people cry for cry'n out loud.Right? I aslo find Bill Frisell a little bit more to the "sophisticated" side of the Emotional > Sophisticated spectrum... While I only listened to Bill for a 6 month period, I got the sense that he is more of a Scofield than a Metheny, and is not as keen to wear his heart on his sleeve (or fretboard, in this case
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Thanks for all these recommendations, I have a lot of listening to do over the weekend
BTW, what did you mean by "what Is your point?"
Here's the thing, for me, and this song. I was 13 years old, always listening to the radio and it started playing. First, I hear this guitar, you know how it starts with the acoustic, catches my attention and I'm staring out the window on a freshly fallen silent shroud of snow. It's the first time I really ever heard the lyric, or paid real attention to any lyric before it... I internalized it and went out the next day and bought Simon & Garfunkel's Greatest Hits. Before this, I was listening to bubblegum pop. That whole album is fantastic.
