A-String "Stealth" String Retainers Back In Stock

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[Hopkins]

I wish they made one in a mirror image of that design. I could use something similar for a treble side tuner.

 

[sissy kathy]

I wish they made one in a mirror image of that design. I could use something similar for a treble side tuner.

They can't; that would constitute catering to lefties.

 

[JMacBass65]

I can't picture it installed. How does it work?

 

[20db pad]

I can't picture it installed. How does it work?

Click on a headstock pic on this webpage, there's one installed on the A string, and Fender uses it on B strings on other models.

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[DiabolusInMusic]

I can't picture it installed. How does it work?

Click on the image to blow it up. The ring sits flush on the stock underneath the nut.

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I bought a bass with one yesterday and I am really considering keeping it when I sell the bass... Fender wants $35 USD for them if I remember right...

 

[JMacBass65]

Cool, that's pretty clean. I got two old ones (Fenders) though, no nuts like that.

 

[hdracer]

These work great on the B string too.

 

[20db pad]

Cool, that's pretty clean. I got two old ones (Fenders) though, no nuts like that.

They're a fairly recent invention, last few years. Before this, we had to add another string tree if the buzzing open A really was a bother. The other way was to wrap the A string all the way down the tuning post.

 

[JMacBass65]

Yeah, sometimes I don't trim anything off the A string, just to get it wrapped down low.

 

[HeavyDuty]

These work great on the B string too.

I have them on the B of all three of my P5s.

 

[iiipopes]

Yeah, sometimes I don't trim anything off the A string, just to get it wrapped down low.

Yes, that is the preferred method: single wrap of the leader all the way down the tuner post until the string just barely clears the headstock bushing so it doesn't bind. But if there is still some instability, the stealth retainer brings the leverage point up just far enough to increase the break angle over the nut just enough to make sure there is no instability or buzz over the nut.

As always, first make sure that the nut slot is the right depth and contour, with a good front witness point and a slight slope back to the tuner, again, all to make sure everything is as stable as possible.

 

[DanTheMan2112]

Will these fit the 1/2" Hipshot Ultralites?

 

[20db pad]

Will these fit the 1/2" Hipshot Ultralites?

It looks like the Stealth Retainer needs a hex nut style bushing that screws to the gear side of the tuner in order to keep it down and in one place. I don't recall any U.S. Hipshot 1/2" tuners having hex bushings but the import ones might.

The Fender basses that the Stealth Retainers come on probably have tuners made by Hipshot and it's a good chance that Hipshot actually makes the Stealth Retainer.

 

[Hopkins]

It looks like the Stealth Retainer needs a hex nut style bushing that screws to the gear side of the tuner in order to keep it down and in one place. I don't recall any U.S. Hipshot 1/2" tuners having hex bushings but the import ones might.

The Fender basses that the Stealth Retainers come on probably have tuners made by Hipshot and it's a good chance that Hipshot actually makes the Stealth Retainer.

Ultralites have a hex nut bushing, and yes these should work fine with that string retainer.

 

[Rockbobmel]

Just ordered (back order) one from Elderly. Mine has one on the A. I gonna see how it works on the E.

 

[JoeWPgh]

My understanding is that it simply replaces the washer under the tuner's nut. These are ridiculously overpriced for something we've done without for +/- 60 years. But, that didn't stop me from buying 3 of them.

 

[iiipopes]

Just ordered (back order) one from Elderly. Mine has one on the A. I gonna see how it works on the E.

My experience has been that there is not enough room for it on the E string, and if a person does make it fit, there is too much break angle over the nut and the E string will bind in the tuning, and possibly break.

My advice is to not use it on an E string. As a matter of fact, I actually adjust the string on the tuner post of the E string so there is no more break angle than on the A string with the retainer, so the string will tune smoothly, intonate correctly with a good nut slot, and not bind or catch.

 

[HeavyDuty]

My experience has been that there is not enough room for it on the E string, and if a person does make it fit, there is too much break angle over the nut and the E string will bind in the tuning, and possibly break.

My advice is to not use it on an E string. As a matter of fact, I actually adjust the string on the tuner post of the E string so there is no more break angle than on the A string with the retainer, so the string will tune smoothly, intonate correctly with a good nut slot, and not bind or catch.

I have these on the low B of all three of my P5s, and one came stock on the low B of my Dim5 (which is where I got the idea.). Works fine.

 

[Jack Joseph]

Does anybody know if these work on MIA standards?