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Absolutely Ignorant About Recording

Sep 29, 2018
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I don’t know a thing about recording at home. I’ve never had an interest, and I have always depended on others to handle the recording. I plug and play, that’s about it. I tell you this because I want you to know how simply I need things explained to me.

I have a PF-50t, and I have a good computer. I also have decent speakers. What is the bare minimum I need to get started recording? I don’t have a ton of money, so any recommendations for inexpensive but high quality components would be great.

Thanks for your help in advance.
 
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Short version:

- an audio interface
- recording software
- as you have a nice tube amp, you may want to get a microphone. Otherwise you can simply plug directly into the interface.
- if you use a mic, headphones would also be good for monitoring.

There are loads of options for all of the above and people will be able to recommend their favourites.

FWIW as long as the interface is compatible with your computer and software of choice, in my experience sound quality shouldn’t be an issue from one to the next. I’ve used Line6 UX2 and Behringer U-Phoria interfaces with good results; there are better/costlier options too.

EDIT if you’re looking to keep costs down, skip mic & headphones :)
 
Short version:

- an audio interface
- recording software
- as you have a nice tube amp, you may want to get a microphone. Otherwise you can simply plug directly into the interface.
- if you use a mic, headphones would also be good for monitoring.

There are loads of options for all of the above and people will be able to recommend their favourites.

FWIW as long as the interface is compatible with your computer and software of choice, in my experience sound quality shouldn’t be an issue from one to the next. I’ve used Line6 UX2 and Behringer U-Phoria interfaces with good results; there are better/costlier options too.

EDIT if you’re looking to keep costs down, skip mic & headphones :)
An interface and software, that’s it? Geez, I feel stupid for asking now, lol. Well, I guess my question is answered, thanks for your help!

Any other recommendations for mics, headphones, interfaces and so forth that are low cost but of good quality are still more than welcome.
 
My personal setup is a Scarlett 2i2 ($160) and Reaper ($60).

There is a Reaper trial version that you can use indefinitely, but it's so worth it for $60; pay for it.

That's all you really need aside from an XLR cable to hook your amp up to the interface given that your PF-50T has that sweet transformer out capability.

Seriously, that's it.

Edit because you asked for a headphone recommendation: Sony MDR-7506 as the easy-to-find best value FTW.
 
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I made a whole album using 2 Shure SM58's > Behringer 4 channel mini mixer > RCA to 1/8" cable > GarageBand 1.1. These days I've gotten away from Apple and love using Reaper ($60) with a Mackie Onyx Blackjack 2-channel interface ($50 used) and a pair of AKG K240 headphones ($70). I've upgraded my mics, but I don't worry about any amps or outboard gear, and get all the FX and synths I need from VST4Free. I'm fortunate to have a friend/engineer who can mix and master for me, but there's a lot a whole heck of a lot you can do at home for a relatively small investment (provided that you already have a computer with adequate processing power and memory).

This is a good resource re: recording drums with 1-2 mics
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I see lots of people using the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 interface - around $140-$160. Gives you 2 inputs for guitars/mics/inst using either TRS or XLR connection.

An excellent and extremely affordable DAW (software) is Reaper. You can download and use the full version freely - you can purchase it for $60. Purchase allows for frequent updates.
Nice, thanks for the software recommendation. I’m going to go ahead and check Reaper out today.
 
I see lots of people using the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 interface - around $140-$160. Gives you 2 inputs for guitars/mics/inst using either TRS or XLR connection.

An excellent and extremely affordable DAW (software) is Reaper. You can download and use the full version freely - you can purchase it for $60. Purchase allows for frequent updates.

I second both suggestions. I have the Scarlett 2i4, it has a couple extra tricks over the 2i2 that would be very useful if this interface is all you have between your amp and the computer (mainly better direct monitoring control). They didn't bring this design forward into the 3rd-gen line, but 2nd-gen versions are still available. The 3rd-gen replacement is the 4i4, which adds two extra line-ins which you won't need for just recording your bass, and AFAICT it requires a software app to control some features, which some people don't like. So, buying brand-new, I'd go 2i2.

REAPER is indeed an excellent tracking/mixing DAW. I've been using it since late in version 4, they're into version 6 now. Your $60 personal-use license (assuming you aren't making money from using the software, at least not yet) gets you free upgrades through two major versions, which historically speaking is about 7 years' worth of updates. It also gets rid of a nag dialog that is cleverly designed to require that dialog window to have focus for 5 seconds before you can clear it. That's basically the only limitation on the unlicensed version of the software; you can use any feature, no time limit, no artificially lowered limits on tracks or plugins.

Apart from these two tools, all you need is to connect the amp to the interface, which can be accomplished with a $15 20' mic cable (XLR to XLR). That will use the "transformer balanced line out" of your PortaFlex. Bear in mind this output is taken between the preamp and power amp, so you won't get the sound color of your tubes or of the speaker cabinet.

To capture these elements of your full rig's tone, you'll want to put a microphone in front of the bass cabinet. Any old mic will work in theory, including ones popular for guitar cabs like the workhorse SM57, however you may lose low-end. Mics that are specifically recommended for bass guitar tend to be those with a combination of good low-end frequency response (<40Hz) and high SPL handling (>130dBA; keep in mind the mic will be mere inches from the cone, so the SPL it's subjected to will be 30-36dB higher than your own ears' volume level from 6 feet away).

The AKG D112 is an industry standard for bass instruments including kick drum and bass guitar cabinets, but it's a $200 microphone at retail so kind of a pricey piece of kit for someone just starting out. It's also deaf as a post (a natural tradeoff of its high SPL handling), with a sensitivity of -55 dbV at 94dBA. That's a little better than some other well-liked dynamics (the popular SM7B vocal mic is -59dB), but you might have trouble boosting that to mixable levels using only the Scarlett's 46dB of preamp gain. You may want to find a preamp of some kind; there are tons of options, but I wouldn't start looking along these lines until you're sure you need one, and that you want to keep building your home studio. You may be better-served at that point by buying a small mixer with good preamps instead of a one- or two-channel mic preamp unit.
 
The amount of information I’ve gained from this thread has been extremely helpful! Simple information and solid recommendations from what I’ve read here and from reviews online. Thanks for all of your assistance in educating me, I greatly appreciate it!
 
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I agree with the Scarlet 2i2. Reaper is good, but given you said you want inexpensive/high quality, I'd also advise checking out Cakewalk by Bandlab as well. It's essentially Sonar Platinum. It's full functioning DAW, and arguably the best free one going. I was using Sonar Platinuim prior to Gibson selling it to Bandlab, so the transition made sense to me, as they're identical. Had they not bought it, I'd have likely stuck with SPLAT, or gone with Reaper.
 
I started at the bottom : IRig and the BandLab app (Free) on my phone. This is a super easy setup for multi-track recording, and also for remote collaboration. I have friends in Austria that add me to their BandLab projects, then I add bass (or whatever) tracks. It’s a really fun way to get started.

I also have a Scarlet Solo. I can use this in lieu of my iRig, but it takes some workarounds to use with iOS devices. Straight to the computer, it’s a super interface. My issue is that I’m lazy about updating my computer, so my DAWs struggle to function properly.

So go cheap and start having fun quickly, or make sure you start with an adequate computer, and the options are limitless.
 
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