State Farm is cool with it.
Also, because my PB is mixed with Boxer (and if I posted a full pic of him you'd see it right away), his dog license officially reads "Boxer Mix" for his breed.
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Accidentally Adopted A Rescue Pit
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State Farm is cool with it.
Also, because my PB is mixed with Boxer (and if I posted a full pic of him you'd see it right away), his dog license officially reads "Boxer Mix" for his breed.
Pit bulls are not a breed. We have a rescue American Staffordshire Terrier, which is a bit smaller and mostly fawn colored. It is classified in the pitbull category, but again, it is a category of mixes, not a specific breed. My first was a pit mix of the bigger English "pits" and Labrador. Very independent, and this AMStaff is a cuddly lapdog. It is also 20 lbs lighter than the first. At least that is what I have learned in the 15 years or so I have owned these wonderful pets.
Pit Bull is a breed. The term is an abbreviation of American Pit Bull Terrier, recognized by the UKC and ADBA. Most dogs casually referred to as "Pits" are not actually registered (or able to be registered) as such and can be a mix of just about anything. But "Pit Bull" is definitely a breed.
Per the organization is MY point( just a decision by a committee). What breeds make up the supposed real AMPB per them? With most new breeds, they are specific mixes of specific breeds, not like a random mix of bulldogs, boxers, and terriers. The Amstaff(also considered a pit bull) has a much clearer lineage.
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Only one: the APBT. In a sense, you're correct, the AmStaff has a clear lineage. They all come from Pit Bulls.
The first APBT registered with the UKC was in 1898. Later on, the AKC, seeking to divorce the APBT from the negative connotations of the pit, "created" the American Staffordshire Terrier by adopting the established APBT breed standard from the UKC, as well as allowing UKC stud dogs to be dual-registered, and changing the name to "American Staffordshire Terrier." Every one of those foundation dogs was an APBT.
One of my dogs was actually triple registered as an APBT with the UKC and ADBA, and an "American Staffordshire Terrier" with the AKC, because according to that organization, "Pit Bull" isn't a breed, despite the entirety of their foundation stud book being populated by APBT's. Committees indeed.
American pitbulls are bigger, 20 lbs heavier at least, and colored different than AmStaff, at least in my world. They are NOT the same animal. I have had one of each.
PS - nice freindly discussion, hope the OP doesn't mind.
PS - nice freindly discussion, hope the OP doesn't mind.
Color is largely irrelevant according to the published breed standards of AmStaffs and APBT's. I think excessive or all white is a fault due to the link with deafness, but nearly any color is acceptable. Maybe not merle though. Can't remember exactly. Been a while since I've reviewed the standard.
What you are describing are not actually Pit Bulls, no matter what their breeders or owners want to call them. They are dogs that do not conform to the APBT standard, as determined and published by both the UKC and ADBA, and are not the offspring of registered sires and dams.
Actually, *real* APBT's are a small to mid-sized, very rangy breed. Most ADBA registered dogs are quite a bit smaller than typical AmStaffs. Backyard breeders are satisfying demand for a bigger, tougher looking dog, and in doing so have created a mixed breed animal with ancestry that includes everything from Dogo Argentino to Dogue de Bordeaux to who knows what else. Those big blocky dogs that look like they were weaned on dianabol are *not* APBT's.
Here's what I think you're describing:
This dog may be sold as a Pit Bull, but it is actually a mixed breed. Even if someone hangs papers on it, it doesn't conform to the breed standard.
This is an example of a real APBT:
This is a typical ADBA Pit Bull. His physical form follows function, as he was bred for supreme athletic performance, not to look tough and scary at the end of a logging chain on someone's porch.
Just for grins, here's my rescue:
I've competed with this dog in everything from dock diving to personal protection, and he's the best working dog I've ever encountered in over a decade of competition. Bomb-proof temperament and grit. He just refuses to quit once he's committed to a task.
Here's my AmStaff. She is very agile and her hips almost seem double jointed. BTW, it was the pound that calls her an AmStaff, thus my confusion.
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Cute dog. That bed is in no danger of blowing away in the wind.
Yeah, some of the breed descriptions I've seen from shelters are pretty cute. I've met quite a few owners of "lab/boxer mixes" that are *clearly* heavily mixed Pit Bulls, AmStaffs, etc. You can imagine the denial upon learning the truth. The stigma makes it tougher to home a Pit than a boxer mix, so there's a tendency to just go with that to get them out the door.
FWIW, only time I get picky about papers, health certifications and registries is if I'm buying a purpose-bred working dog. If it's a rescue, I only want to see the dog itself and what it brings to the table.
Yup, when we walked by the cages, I put my hand down next to the cages as we slowly walk by, and if a dog comes to smell my hand, I give it a look. She immediately came over. We took her to the little get to know ya space, he let her off the leash, I snapped my fingers and she came over and sat on my foot. I was sold!!!! She has to be touching, by sitting on your foot, or she'll sit in front of you and lean back until she's no longer sitting on her legs, it's like she's sitting on her back instead!
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OK, if we walk down memory lane... Jai, a rescue. As a young dog...
And as an old man. Kittens basically adopted him every time... He sure loved them.
RIP, my loving friend.
And as an old man. Kittens basically adopted him every time... He sure loved them.
RIP, my loving friend.
Don't mind at all!
My first "pit" was actually an Am. Staff named Lady. Very similar in appearance to an AMPBT with short hair, deep muscular chest, well defined waist, and headshape. For a long time we just thought she was a runty pit bull until we were corrected. She topped out at about 40lbs.
Max, the young pup in the red collar, is pretty much AMPBT. His father is a stud from some famous bloodline of pits. Fortunately for me, Max's mother didn't have that kind of pedigree and it was an accidental breeding so I got a free dog.
Meaty is just... fat.
Yours looks like ours when younger...
Ours made it onto a Website for a doggie day care.
Could not ask for a sweeter dog.
Here's a few more pictures from their first night together. We've been walking them a lot since then, and people keep assuming that they're brothers or that I've had them both forever.
Sorry, forgive the indulgence.
I crack up everytime I look at these. Such joy!
Thank you!!!
