at a Sam Ash sale. I have to put fretless, be it acoustic or solid bodyish bass, or upright or eub in one category of instrument...you can woodshed all your life and never get the hang of playing without frets, lined, unlined, side dot, or not. It IS a completely different genre in my experience.
For my money, I love Rob Allen fretted 4 or 5 strings. It's the best blend of an acoutic fretted bass, with excellent amplified tone, and a decent replica of an upright without having to worry about intonation. It's not loud enough without an amp for gigging or jamming in your living room. It is loud enough for practicing without an amp, but if you're playing along with a sound source, ya need to plug it in. They're extremely lightweight, well, built, and well reviewed.
It's also not a cheap date....no Robelli or Kelly price comparison, even used.....lookin at mid high 2000's new, $1795 for a 30 in scale. and then down from there used, if you can ever find one available. They're not commonly being sold or traded second hand.
I do have one question....does I've never played a Kelly bass I didn't like, mean you've liked every Kelly bass you've played?
Lkaye