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Advice needed: Cutting Cable TV

Ironbar

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Well, the kiddo is turning 16 soon and will have her driver's license. Called insurance to get a quote, and even with the discounts she's eligible for, we're still facing our premiums more than doubling!

The wife and I have knocked around the idea of canceling cable, going with an HD arial, and using streaming services for all else. Based on a cursory search, we could subscribe to Netflix, Hulu Plus, AND Amazon Prime video for less than half the cost of our current TV bundle.

I'd like some practical advice from those that have done this. I guess my main concern is, what's the best HD arial that won't break the bank, how to record shows, and what to do about wifi signal strength in the basement where the family room is located. It's sketchy as it stands now.

Thanks!
 
I tried a bunch of different indoor antennas & this one worked best:

HDTV Antenna - Mohu Leaf 50 Indoor TV Antenna

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Why subscribe to three different streaming services?
I'm a couch potato & I just picked one, Amazon Prime, but because I get a student's account discount.
 
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The advice I read for my area was to get your antenna way up high in the air. I didn't want to mess with that, so I just use the antenna on top of our tiny house. It gets the local FOX station, a bunch of shopping channels, Latino stuff, Christian stuff, and some public government stuff.
We bought a Roku and signed up for the lower tier Hulu channel, $8.70 per month after tax.
My cousin has the top tier package with DIRECTV, so I use his log in to watch some stuff like Food Network, NHL games, and Discovery.

As to your specifics...
We don't record TV since we don't watch live TV, except for sports.
As for Wi-Fi, look into a signal booster, or perhaps you can run an Ethernet cable to the basement?

My advice is cut the cord completely, then add back what you really miss. You'll be surprised what you don't need after all in regards to TV.

-Mike
 
Amazon Prime and Netflix for me. Covers all I need. I watch very little on TV ( Food network - The Voice - History channel shows like Forged in Fire and the various science and animal shows my daughter and I enjoy ) I had Kodi for awhile but the piracy aspect turned me off. I don't miss it.
 
Start with the antenna before you cancel anything so you know if you will be able to receive adequate signal to satisfy your needs. You could search for a map of broadcasters in your area to determine if you will need to rotate your antenna in order to receive all your desired signal sources. If you will only require to point an antenna in two different directions, you could mount two stationary antennas, and install an A/B switch to select between them. I recommend that you plan to use an outboard rf amplifier to boost the signal. Mounting your antenna(s) as high up as possible will give the best reception. It takes some time for a digital signal to be recognized, and displayed on your set, which makes rotating the antenna not work like it did in the analog days. You can't observe the reception and rotate the antenna and see immediately when you are getting signal. There are antenna rotors that once your optimum angles of direction are determined, can be programmed to go to those set positions.

Most Internet service prices you see advertised are the price when you have that service bundled with other services. Internet only will cost more than the advertiser want you to believe.
 
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I haven't watched broadcast television in years, and I don't miss it. For the past few years, I have just streamed Netflix.

These days, I only use my laptop and phone for Netflix, but when I was using a TV, I frequently had issues connecting. I had an app on my smart TV and an app on my BluRay player. Sometimes the TV couldn't connect, and so I would use the BluRay player. Sometimes the BluRay player would not work for weeks or months on end, so I had to just hook up my laptop with an HDMI cable, or screenmirror from my phone. Perhaps the apps on newer devices like Roku, or FireTV are better than what I had on my smart TV and BluRay player, but either way, I would anticipate connectivity issues on a somewhat regular basis.

For me, the most reliable way to use streaming services is by hooking up a laptop with an HDMI cable. Netflix and other services tend to work better from a web browser than from an app, and navigating for shows/movies is easier with a mouse and keyboard than with a remote.
 
Well, the kiddo is turning 16 soon and will have her driver's license. Called insurance to get a quote, and even with the discounts she's eligible for, we're still facing our premiums more than doubling!

The wife and I have knocked around the idea of canceling cable, going with an HD arial, and using streaming services for all else. Based on a cursory search, we could subscribe to Netflix, Hulu Plus, AND Amazon Prime video for less than half the cost of our current TV bundle.

I'd like some practical advice from those that have done this. I guess my main concern is, what's the best HD arial that won't break the bank, how to record shows, and what to do about wifi signal strength in the basement where the family room is located. It's sketchy as it stands now.

Thanks!
Depending on where you live you may not need much for an antenna.
I live in a town with 6 local stations (market #76 - NYC is #1 L.A. is #2) and can pick them all up just fine with about a one foot long piece of wire stuck into the antenna socket. Try that first and see what you get. I'm on flat Earth and the stations all have tall towers. If you are some place where you have a mountain, the TV stations transmitters should all be up there and around the same place. That's good for two reasons, more consistent signal and everyone's in the same general direction if you need a directional antenna.

Don't get sucked into something just because it says "HD" or "Digital."
Antennas are, and always have been sold in the snake-oil isle at your electronics store.
If you are rural, you may need to go to a basic directional rooftop/attic TV antenna.
If you have to put something on the roof, don't skimp on the cable you use to connect to the TV.
Cheap cable = lots of signal loss and more interference.
The best stuff you can commonly get for TV installs will be what's called RG-6, and get the stuff with foil and braided (dual) shield.

If you do have to go with an outdoor roof/or attic antenna, and you don't know much about this stuff, get hold of someone who knows this stuff and can do a proper installation. It might cost you a couple or three cable bills, but after that you're no longer sucking the pipe and drinking the cool-aid.
Pretty much everything is UHF these days which is great because the antennas are much smaller.

The only thing good/bad about digital TV is that you either get a perfect picture or you get nothing at all.
Used to be you could get a snowy analog picture and aim for best reception.
Doesn't work that way anymore, so more opportunity for slickster to tell you you need a "digital" "HD" antenna. Horse Hockey!

And don't let some sales geek talk you into a new TV.
A lot of the TV band is getting jumbled up over the next three or four years.
Stations you watch now may need to change channels.
New modulation schemes coming along down the road that your "old TV" may not pick up.
The TV's you have now and are being sold in stores may not work for OTA after it all shakes out.
If you have other reasons to buy a new set now, that's fine. Just hold off if you can.

Remember the "government cheese" TV converters that were around when the Fed killed off analog TV?
Ain't gonna be none of that give-a-way this time. All OTA watchers will be on their own.
 
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I tried a bunch of different indoor antennas & this one worked best:

HDTV Antenna - Mohu Leaf 50 Indoor TV Antenna

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Why subscribe to three different streaming services?
I'm a couch potato & I just picked one, Amazon Prime, but because I get a student's account discount.
I have the Leaf too and it works pretty good, even in hilly San Francisco. I have the self powered model, sometimes I do have to move it to the opposite wall, no problem I have Velcro on both walls. The HD signal comes in real clear for all the broadcast stations.
I also have Roku and it works real good for all of the things the OP wanted to stream. If you have a weak signal you may need to get a device that boosts the signal.
If you like sports it can be a problem. If one of my teams is in the playoffs I subscribe to Sling TV. I think it is $20 per month. After the playoffs I let the subscription go until I need it again. When we signed up for Sling TV they sent us a free Roku.
We already have Amazon prime because of the free shipping so we also get a lot of free movies there. Between streaming Amazon Prime and Netflix through our Roku we have a lot of choices. We can also pay to stream movies one at a time if we want. It is usually $3.99 per movie.
There are some good free stations with Roku too. I like PBS and ABC News. There are also a lot of stations you can subscribe to for a price.
 
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I sincerely don't know when people get time to ever watch TV.
This. I watch one football game per week in season and eat pizza with my wife. It's become a Sunday ritual together. Other than that, the TV stays off and we don't eat pizza. When it's not in season, I can't think of a time the TV has been on when I have been home. We only have a cable for internet. The football game comes over the air and into rabbit ears.
 
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This. I watch one football game per week in season and eat pizza with my wife. It's become a Sunday ritual together. Other than that, the TV stays off and we don't eat pizza. When it's not in season, I can't think of a time the TV has been on when I have been home. We only have a cable for internet. The football game comes over the air and into rabbit ears.
No blackouts with your local team?
 
No blackouts with your local team?
Not lately anyway. The Seahawks seem to sell out the stadium to the point there are waiting lists for season tickets. So, no reason for blackouts. If the Huskies were on the air instead of on a wire, I would probably watch them, too. But, I can listen to the radio and play the guitar or something, so that's what I do for college football.

Baseball is the perfect radio sport. No need for TV there.
 
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WiFi in the basement is a completely separate issue. Basically, when "cutting the (TV) cord" what are you doing for internet?

Speaking as a campus network guy, you'll need a few parts, which most people fail to understand well due to many people conflating terms.

A router is the thing that goes between a modem (connection to the internet) and your local network. A Router does not do WiFi (no, really)

A switch turns one wired port into multiple wired ports.

An Access point provides WiFi.

Lump the above three (sometimes all 4 including the modem) separate items into one box, and far too many people call it "A router" and then think that "A router" is the thing you get WiFi from.

In most buildings, the place where you have the modem/router is not really the best place for a WiFI Access point to be. As such, I prefer to get a router that does not contain an access point, and put access points where they are most advantageously placed, connected by wires to a switch, connected by wire to the router which connects to the modem. If your needs are small enough that the 4 or so switchports that are commonly built into many consumer "routers" are adequate, that's fine, if running wires to it is convenient. Good wireless is based on a backbone of wires, in almost all cases. While wireless uplinks can work and some are getting to be halfway decent, a wire will beat them hands-down, every time.

In short, you generically want a wire to the basement and an access point in the basement, to improve WiFi in your basement. It has nothing to do with your cable TV service, unless your cable TV service is also your internet provider (and in that case you're not so much cutting the cord as reducing the services you buy from them.)
 
Talk to your cable provider's customer retention department. They might be able to reduce your cable bill by like 40% for exactly the same service. At least that's what xfinity/comcast did for me.

True. You don't get the really good deals until you threaten to leave.

I think things are going to change a lot over the next few years with how we view television. I'm not ready to cut the cord yet, though. After I pay for internet (only a couple of options for that in my zip code, both with major cable companies) then pay for 3 or 4 different streaming services, I'm close to what I'm already spending.
 
True. You don't get the really good deals until you threaten to leave.

I think things are going to change a lot over the next few years with how we view television. I'm not ready to cut the cord yet, though. After I pay for internet (only a couple of options for that in my zip code, both with major cable companies) then pay for 3 or 4 different streaming services, I'm close to what I'm already spending.

My broadband choices are cable, or DSL. The fastest DSL service offered in my neighborhood is 1.5mbps. That's insanely slow. So I pretty much have to have cable in order to stream any video if I drop the cable TV part.

I did drop TV for a couple months and tried out the Sony PS Vue streaming service. My experience with it was terrible. It was very flakey and unreliable. Then Sony raised the price. I talked to xfinity and they got me back in to TV (bundled with internet) for less than I was paying for internet + PS Vue. And it actually works.