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I think I could probably hum the melody for every piece on the first 4 albums and then about 1/3 from most of his others. But one of his most lovely melodies is this:
Plainly, I am a fan.
Look on the bright side....the Beatles, then classic rock came back. Fusion cant be far behind. Jazz, unfortunately, has decayed so badly that the younger generation don't recognize it, unless it is the vaseline variety.
Exactly - the problem isn't with the kids, it's with the record and other media executives. The Chris Blackwells and Ahmet Erteguns have seemingly been replaced by people with absolutely no passion for music.
When the mob ran the music business, it was much better! I'm not kidding!
The thought I had (Warning Bassist with a thought content!) is that you don't play Iron Maiden at a disco. Pop music is just that. Easy listening, fun and forgetful. People want to dance and romance not appreciate a virtuosic musician. There are those of us that state pop music of the 60's was 'better' music. Maybe but at its core it was intended for people to enjoy the moment not to sit quietly carefully listening to an artist.
My music teach in high school once said something like this 'My wife and I were entertaining and she said 'Put some music on honey.' so I did and stopped talking to our guests. My wife said 'Don't be rude' and I replied with 'It is either talking or listening to music, both cannot be done together!''
My take was that he was one of us musicians that appreciated music so much that it comes first. Most people are not musicians so generic pop is attractive to them.
My music teach in high school once said something like this 'My wife and I were entertaining and she said 'Put some music on honey.' so I did and stopped talking to our guests. My wife said 'Don't be rude' and I replied with 'It is either talking or listening to music, both cannot be done together!''
My take was that he was one of us musicians that appreciated music so much that it comes first. Most people are not musicians so generic pop is attractive to them.
Actually, I read some article about this several years ago, and it offered what I think is a better explanation.
In the early days of recording, the label heads loved music, but knew they weren't experts, so they relied on surrounding themselves with others who seemed to. The most successful of those eventually ended up in charge, but, convinced of their own genius, they surrounded themselves with yes men.
Somebody like Danny Fields, who is arguably more responsible for the spread of punk than anyone else, couldn't even get hired today. The "geniuses" at the labels wouldn't be able to relate personally to the music, so they wouldn't be interested in giving it a shot.
Not in my neck of the woods. Jazz is "The Deal" among most of the young music students I know. Local high school Jazz programs are adding multiple ensembles. Local college and university jazz programs are world renowned. Students and parents are all asking for jazz material to be included in lesson plans, etc. Same goes for classical music, but on a smaller scale. It's still nice to see these two genres making a little head way in this day and age. It gives me hope!
Kids these days with their overly simplistic commercialized pop music!
I'm going to put on some Herman's Hermits deep tracks and savor the chord substitutions! Then a Tommy James medley! That'll show this Swift Tailor character!
I'm going to put on some Herman's Hermits deep tracks and savor the chord substitutions! Then a Tommy James medley! That'll show this Swift Tailor character!
Unfortunately, what we have today is some of the Mob's worst behavior, like fraudulent accounting and strong arming artists out of song writing royalties, has been given the veneer of legality and acceptability.
I can't imagine why the kids aren't all lining up for a piece of that action.
How many "New music sucks" or "pop music sucks" threads do we really need to have this month? The only thing to distinguish this thread is a 15 year old interview. Then it is just more of the same. Don't you all get tired of constantly rehashing this extremely boring subject?
The last time I saw Al was about four years ago. He didn't have an upright or electric bass player. Instead he had Fausto Beccalossi covering bass lines on his accordion. It was amazing what this person was doing with that thing!! Sorry to derail the thread a little.
The more things change...
“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”
― Socrates
“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”
― Socrates
Just go to any used vinyl store and you can see the mountains of forgettable garbage that was produced over the decades. At least now the crap music won't end up in a landfill for future generations to deal with.
Sociologists have documented that most people develop their tastes in music and timbres during their teens and early 20's. After that, most people tend to judge new music against that benchmark, which means there is a resistance to, and lack of appreciation for, new forms. There is a lot of good music being made today but I will admit that I sometimes need to get out of my head to be able to hear it with fresh ears and give it a fair shake. Most people who had listened to Duke and Count growing up probably felt the same way as Rock and Roll came on the scene (even though the big band years had its own share of piffle); what a pain they were. Pete Townshend saw this coming for the Boomers when he wrote "hope I die before I get old."
I'd rather have kids playing on my lawn than be surrounded by a bunch of geezers playing Doobie Brothers in Depends. YMMV
Sociologists have documented that most people develop their tastes in music and timbres during their teens and early 20's. After that, most people tend to judge new music against that benchmark, which means there is a resistance to, and lack of appreciation for, new forms. There is a lot of good music being made today but I will admit that I sometimes need to get out of my head to be able to hear it with fresh ears and give it a fair shake. Most people who had listened to Duke and Count growing up probably felt the same way as Rock and Roll came on the scene (even though the big band years had its own share of piffle); what a pain they were. Pete Townshend saw this coming for the Boomers when he wrote "hope I die before I get old."
I'd rather have kids playing on my lawn than be surrounded by a bunch of geezers playing Doobie Brothers in Depends. YMMV
Or they have a passion for different kinds of music.
I disagree, "classic rock" stations have been playing the same stuff for 40 years.
If a newer band fits the mold, (ie. Tom Petty, U2, Pearl Jam, etc...) they slowly become folded into the classic rock mix years after their brief weeks on the pop-charts have faded from memory.
Just because its not on the pop-charts doesn't mean people aren't listening to it or have "forgotten" it.
