• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Am I anal?

Status
Not open for further replies.
I was talking to a friend of mine online just a moment ago, and I mentioned he needed to borrow me some CDs at some point (he has a lot of heavier metal that I want to try listening to). He mentions he'll upload it, and I basically say I want to borrow the original CD since mp3 is crap and I'd prefer to encode it myself.

He claims there's no difference between mp3 and lossless because mp3 only removes frequencies the human ear can't hear. I'm bored at work and end up ranting to him about the differences in audio and audio compression and the problems I have with mp3. I wasn't trying to be anal, I was just bored at work and talking. I admit I probably AM anal about a/v, but I like to think I have high standards that I like to uphold. I'm not anal in general. I just have high standards about the things I indulge in and am happy to talk about it. Especially considered this guy is a friend, I wouldn't have thought he'd have a problem accepting that I just wanted to talk about it... but he seems to think I went out of my way to make him look stupid and correct what he said that was wrong.
Beggars can't be choosers.
He offered to do you a favor, and in return he got a technical debate. Regardless of your audio standards, they are his CDs and he doesn't have to let you borrow them at all.

If a friend came up to me asking for a bite to eat, and I offered him a sandwich, I would be pissed if he replied that the sandwich was not up to his standards of culinary excellence for his sensitive palette. Then if he went on and on about the evils of sandwiches, and how ignorant I was about cooking, I'd seriously reconsider the friendship. If that's what I get for trying to help, it would be better not to help in the first place.

He then goes to compare me to someone he used to know who was "anal" and happens to mention he didn't have a girlfriend for the three years he knew him. Umm, I admit to being a social dufus, but even if I am "anal", surely making judgements about someone like that is just as bad.
But it's OK to make judgements on him and post them on a message board?

I wouldn't say I'm anal. I would say I'm a proud and loyal person in general, and this relates to the things I am passionate about as well.
Are you loyal to ideas, or people? Is your presonal pride more important than preserving other's pride?

Not an attack, just something to think about. Those two questions helped me to grow a lot.

One tip I've learned from a wise woman, "If you don't want to make enemies, always allow the other to save face"

I admit I just ranted at him, but as a friend I'm a bit annoyed he felt that I needed to be subtle with him (if I'm friends with someone, I give it to them straight; if it's someone I don't really know that well and I happen to talk about things I'm passionate about, I'll be more subtle...). I haven't actually known this guy for that long, so I guess he doesn't understand how I operate; but if he's not going to accept me for how I am, I don't have time to care.
So the guy that you asked a favor from has to conform to the way you operate?
You said you haven't known him for very long, do you just expect that he's knows how you operated by mental telepathy?
But I can tell you that he knows how you operate now.

I've also had to ring this guy up a couple of times to talk him out of thinking stupid things. I just don't know what to do with him.
Just leave him be. All friendships require space, and the freedom to disagree or be wrong. We all have different opinions, needs, and viewpoints. If you can't accept that, then you have some control issues.

Maybe my reply sounds harsh, but it's only because I learned these things the hard way and I do not want others to repeat these friendship killing patterns. Having friendships is one of the most wonderful gifts that I have been blessed with, and I'd love to see others have the same.

Cheers.
 
Look man, if I could download a car I would. Am looking to pay off my debts now, but I'm not going to be able to buy 30 CDs tomorow unless someone wants to pay off my debts for me. Am not trying to steal, but I know if I offered you all 10 bux, you'd not turn it down.

You've bought 30 CDs over the last few years and that gives you the right to steal music?[/qupte]

I count at least 41 on that pile, and there are many that weren't on the shelf at the time of that picture. And it's a year and a half, and I haven't been in work for the last 8 months...

I'm pulling your leg to an extent.

I think it's pretty ingracious of you to refuse the offer your friend made because it wouldn't be good enough for your sensitive ears.

I'd turn down an offer of work if it wasn't paying enough. Why should I turn down something from a friend if I don't want it? I'm not going to change for people. I'm a very honest and open person, and that's that. Of all people, I shouldn't need to put up a facade with my friends.

Look, all you're mums on the issue of piracy. If I didn't get into music via piracy, I'd not have those CDs on my shelf at all. I downloaded The Black Mages' albums years ago, and I recently bought copies.

shoulda been a poll with the following choices:

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Anal Carrots

I agree with this point most of all. I'll see if I can edit this or just keep it in mind for next time...
 
.... And it's a year and a half, and I haven't been in work for the last 8 months...

.....I'm bored at work and end up ranting to him about the differences in audio and audio compression and the problems I have with mp3. I wasn't trying to be anal, I was just bored at work and talking.

So what gives here?
 
I forgot to mention I have a growing pile of CDs at home.

I'm not going to go out on limb and buy something I may well hate (I already have a DragonForce album for that). I'll borrow a CD, listen to it, and if I like it, I'll start collecting from that band. I'd also prefer to buy stuff people close to me don't have. Like, me and my best friend basically exchange CDs freely. Piracy? Probably. But I don't get into many bands by being told, "Hey, check out this band... Go buy their albums". Sorry, I'd rather finish off my Rush or R.E.M. collection than take a risk :P

I did that over a year ago with Rush's Retrospective, and now I have about 3/4s of their discography :D

Edit: I'm also not discussing it here. There's already plenty of topics about for that.

i don't see anything wrong with borrowing other folk's cds to see if you like the music or not. there's a huge difference between that and pirating 1000's of mp3s off the net, with no intention of ever buying the music.
 
Grrr, I need to vent a bit.

I was talking to a friend of mine online just a moment ago, and I mentioned he needed to borrow me some CDs at some point


Ugh! I can't even read your post past this point without taking the time to comment.

You didn't want him to borrow you some CD's. You wanted him to loan you the CD's. You are the one doing the borrowing, he is the one doing the loaning. It drives me just absolutely bonkers when people use the word borrow to mean loan.

Don't get me started on itch vs. scratch and the fact that you do not EVER "itch your arm" but rather scratch your arm because it itches…

Sorry, I'll get back to reading your post now. ;)
 
Ugh! I can't even read your post past this point without taking the time to comment.

You didn't want him to borrow you some CD's. You wanted him to loan you the CD's. You are the one doing the borrowing, he is the one doing the loaning. It drives me just absolutely bonkers when people use the word borrow to mean loan.

Don't get me started on itch vs. scratch and the fact that you do not EVER "itch your arm" but rather scratch your arm because it itches…

Sorry, I'll get back to reading your post now. ;)

+1

I try not to get too critical of other people's writing, but as a writer/editor by trade, I can't help it.

As for the "am I anal?" question? If you have to ask if you are anal, you probably are. I don't think there's anything wrong with not liking the sound of mp3s. Sometimes I can tell the difference, sometimes I can't.

I do see something wrong with dictating how someone should do a favor for you, and I see everything wrong with making copies of music that you didn't buy.

I feel for you, being in a tough financial position because I'm going through tough times too. It's very hard, especially when all your money goes toward bills and you don't have any leftover for something fun. When you see other people prospering and you're not, it's easy to think the world owes you a favor. Not much in this world is free. When a person can get their act together enough to buy luxuries then they deserve it.

What goes around comes around. Be careful what you send around.

Good luck in pulling yourself up. When you can do that, then you can buy anything you want yourself and you don't have to deal with what someone else thinks.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.