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Amateur Astronomers?

How many of us bass players are Amateur Astronomers?

I've been into astronomy since I was about 12 years old, but I didn't get a telescope until I was in my early thirties.

I now have a Meade ETX105 for a grab'n'go scope and an LX90 for more serious observing. I run both scopes with Starry Night Pro.

I plan on getting a nice Televue APO at some point and also a Meade 14" LX200GPS, after we move out to an old farm in the country and I convert an old silo into an observatory. At which point I will get seriously into imaging.

What about the rest of you? What do you have for equipment and how long have you been into it?

Those that are really into it know that playing bass (even with the best gear) is very inexpensive in comparison to some telescope equipment.
 
I've been casually interested for a few years, but I didn't get seriously into it until just this year. Right now, all I have are a pair of 7x50 binoculars and some star charts. I don't want to buy a telescope until I know the sky like the back of my hand (which may take a few years).

I'd eventually like to get a Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope (I want to get into deep-sky astrophotography), but I'll probably start with a Dob.
 
I've been interested in astronomy and celestial mechanics for most of my life. I had a little Kmart telescope when I was a kid (don't laugh... it worked). I've been interested in learning about higher quality telescopes, and have wanted to get a good one for years. Can anyone recommend a website to learn about them or a particular brand? Affordable is good.
 
cloudynights.com and excelsis.com both have reviews of telescopes and eyepieces and mounts and whatever else you need.

But Dean N, in Pittsburgh, you should go to one of the Amateur Astronomers Association of Pittsburgh public star parties. See the star parties link at Invalid Link Removed.

There will probably be lots of different scopes to try out. Like going to GC and trying out all the basses before you decide what to buy. Except at the star party they aren't trying to sell you anything and they know what they are talking about!
 
Well Sundogue, we've mailed about this, but I'll share my thought with the rest of you.

I've been interested in the skies since I was a little boy (8 or so), and I read and read a lot of books on the subject.
When I was 12 I bought a 500 dollar Tall 110 mm reflector, a russian scope, very sturdy and an excellent beginner scope. However, I was too young to properly operate it, and that combined with the awful light pollution I have to deal with (I live in a 200k city) made kinda loose interest. I stayed in touch with the subject but I didn't got out anymore to actually watch stuff (except a partial eclipse in 2001). A year ago I got bit again by the skybug, I became member of the VVS (flemmish astronomy organisation), and I started watching the skies again; the moon, sun projections, planets, and the occasional deep sky (which is a real challenge, even M 31 and M42 (Andromeda and Orion nebula) are nothing more than a faint blob :( .

Anyway, I agree with Kibuddy here, first you should get to know the sky (like I should, I don't know the sky for **** I know the constellations, but that's it), and getting a descent binocular (7 or 10x50) is better than getting a 2 k scope when you have little experience. I'm even considering getting a nice binocular, which can also be taken of holiday to the Alps for instance.

Hope this helps...and clear skies! ;)
 
I've got a Meade Polaris. It's not state of the art by any means, but it's cool. I usually only use it at my parents house, the city light are too bright where I live. It sounds like you've got the perfect setup with the silo in the country.
 
I've got a Meade Polaris. It's not state of the art by any means, but it's cool. I usually only use it at my parents house, the city light are too bright where I live. It sounds like you've got the perfect setup with the silo in the country.

Well, the silo in the country is a long ways off. Don't let city lights put you off, as I too live in the city and have horrible light pollution...and on top of it, I live in the upper Midwest, which is notorious for very poor atmospheric seeing conditions.

And yet, even with my little 105mm, I can clearly see the core of M31 and it's distinct shape, and in my 8" SCT, I can make out a bit of dust lanes.,. even from the city.

The key to viewing (all viewing really) from the city, is patience and to stick with one object for a while. You'd be surprised how much detail can be seen one minute after some very poor viewing only a minute prior.

I've even made out the very clear donut shape of the Ring Nebula through my 105mm. Very crisp and detailed considering the aperture and city conditions. Of course, I was using a Mak and it has very sharp optics.

City viewing or not, aperture generally rules. DOB's are the best bang for the buck. Lots of great deals on used gear at Astromart...and like talkbass, they are very friendly and easy to deal with.
 
I kind of wanted to get into astronomy. I have a really good pair of binoculars, but I wear glasses so it's hard to use them. I'm also surrounded by trees, so I have to lay on my back and look up!

I wish I knew someone who knew what they were doing so I could try their telescope and have them show me everything.
 
I kind of wanted to get into astronomy. I have a really good pair of binoculars, but I wear glasses so it's hard to use them. I'm also surrounded by trees, so I have to lay on my back and look up!

I wish I knew someone who knew what they were doing so I could try their telescope and have them show me everything.

The best way to get started is with binoculars! I used binos for many years before I got my first scope. If you use binos, mount your binos to a camera tripod (most binos have a 1/4"-20 thread for attaching to tripods (or a monopod). It will help stabilize them so the object isn't jumping all over your field of view.

Go to a bookstore and get Sky and Telescope magazine. Every month they have a pull-out all sky map that shows you where all the major objects are, as well as a monthly article on what best to look at that month.

Also, you can get a planisphere. It's a round dialable map of the night sky that you can use any time of the year. The first thing you should do is learn all the major constellations and asterisms (parts of constellations). Once you learn them, they become a sky map themselves that allow you to find objects by hopping from one star to another to find what you are looking for.

A very good object to view this time of year is the Orion nebula. It is a nebula that is larger than our entire solar system, and it can be seen with the naked eye...and it's high in the night sky this time of year. Even from my light polluted back yard, I can see the Orion Nebula with the naked eye. Binos won't show you too much more, though it should allow you to see that it just isn't any other star.

Look for the constellation Orion. It is quite obvious in the SW part of the sky. You'll see three stars that are in an almost perfect row (those are known as Orion's belt).

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When you find that, hold three fingers together (all the way out at arm's length). Hold your fingers just under the star on the left. Just under your fingers you will see two faint, fuzzy stars (very dim and fuzzy). The one on the top isn't a star, but many stars within the Great Orion nebula (NOTE: It is the red one in the above photo, below the left star of the three in a row). It is a huge cloud of interstellar gas that is actually a star factory where many new stars are forming.

It looks like this through a telescope (of decent aperture). Though it will be fainter, less detailed and not this red.

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Just remember that everything except planets will not show their true colors to your eye because your night vision can only see blues and greens. Photos can keep adding colors as they develop, but your night vision can't see reds, orange, yellow, etc. very well at all.

Also, no matter what telescope you ever get, no matter how big, you will never see anything through them that looks like the Hubble pictures. The Hubble is outside our atmosphere, so it never has to deal with the problems we do with our telescopes on the ground. The pictures in ads and on the boxes of telescopes are showing you Hubble pictures. Everything you see through a scope will be dimmer, less colorful and much, much smaller and it takes years of learning how to "see" details.

Also...one thing to remember...Your night vision takes about a half hour of almost total darkness to get your eyes adapted to see faint objects. Never use a white light flashlight...always cover it with something so it shines red. Red light will not harm your night vision. Avoid street lights and car headlights, as it will take another half hour for your eyes to adapt again.

A good beginner's book is "Turn left at Orion", which explains alot to beginners.
 
Again, Sundogue, excellent advice. Thanks for sharing. I'm in the middle of a cycle of reading about (ancient) human history and astronomy. Every book that tries to decipher prehistory always ends up focusing on how culture or technology has some sort of basis in the heavens... and them I'm off to the bookstore to find another Sagan or Greene book....
 
I kind of wanted to get into astronomy. I have a really good pair of binoculars, but I wear glasses so it's hard to use them. I'm also surrounded by trees, so I have to lay on my back and look up!

I wish I knew someone who knew what they were doing so I could try their telescope and have them show me everything.



Take your glasses off when you observe through anything. The lenses in whatever device you are using will compensate and you'll have good vision again.
 
Take your glasses off when you observe through anything. The lenses in whatever device you are using will compensate and you'll have good vision again.

It depends on what the glasses are correcting for.

Al Nagler has optics that screw onto his eyepieces for those who need to use glasses, even when observing.

But yeah, generally EP's kind of replace glasses for most of the common eyesight deficiencies.
 
I had a Meade ETX125 for a couple years. Funny thing happened, though. After spending more time here, my amateur astronomy time diminished to the point where I sold the scope.

I've not been without a scope since I've been about 8 years old. So, it's killing me not to have anything at the moment. I'm thinking maybe something ike a spotting scope that will also work for planetary and brighter messier object viewing.
 
Watching this thread with interest as my two older boys and myself go stargazing a couple of times per month. We have some cheapy telescopes, but are getting ready to upgrade as we're getting more into it. Meteor showers are a favorite.
 
I had a Meade ETX125 for a couple years. Funny thing happened, though. After spending more time here, my amateur astronomy time diminished to the point where I sold the scope.

I've not been without a scope since I've been about 8 years old. So, it's killing me not to have anything at the moment. I'm thinking maybe something ike a spotting scope that will also work for planetary and brighter messier object viewing.

If you are into planetary and brighter DSO's, the ETX line is very good. They are Maksutov designs, so the have the optics for sharp contrasty planetary work, yet either the 105 or 125 are big enough for those bright DSO's.

But if you are looking into a smaller refractor, I would look for a small APO. The wide field achromats are great for star clusters and some bright DSO's, but they just aren't designed for planetary viewing.

Spotting scopes are really designed for terrestrial viewing. They can be used for astronomical viewing, but they really don't excel at anything.

Ideally, if money is no object, my choice would be a Televue APO. I'd already have one, but I don't really have a $2000+ to drop on a smaller used one.

There are others, like Borg's, TAK's, and even Stellervue makes some awesome wide field APO's, but even on the low end, they aren't cheap...though very much worth it.

I know what you mean about not having time, but I've found that being a musician actually works to my advantage. Think about it, when you are all done packing up after a gig, it's an ideal time to view.

I have brought my ETX105 to gigs and after we're done I take it out and set it on the trunk of my car and share the views with the band. That's one thing nice about the ETX line...you don't need a tripod.
 
Watching this thread with interest as my two older boys and myself go stargazing a couple of times per month. We have some cheapy telescopes, but are getting ready to upgrade as we're getting more into it. Meteor showers are a favorite.

If you are really looking into getting a really nice scope and don't want to spend a fortune...you have to check out www.astromart.com

You can get a great used scope for anywhere from $150 to $500. and almost everyone there that buys and sells takes great care of their stuff and pack it very well when shipping.

It really is the talkbass of amateur astronomy. Great sight for info, sharing ideas and buying and selling used astronomy gear.
 

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