Amp for a Fender Rumble 210 Cabinet v3

[PcYou367]

Hi, i'm interested in a Fender Rumble 210 Cabinet V3 and i was thinking of pairing it with the Harley Benton Block-800B Amp, i have a Invalid Link Removed so i don't think i need to be worried about the pre-amp of the Harley Benton Amp. I really didn't wanted to spend more money then this combination but i have some questions and i'm really new and with lack of knowledge about this things...
Do you guys think that with this combination i would be able to get a total of maybe 400-500watts of output?
Is this a bad option should i get something else?

btw, it's my first time posting here...
Thank you.

 

[Redbrangus]

Hmmm... Harley Benton doesn't seem to publicize the power rating of the Bass Block 800 at 8Ω; all they ever say is '800 watts at 4Ω' -- in itself kind of nebulous because it doesn't even state if that's a continuous rating or a peak one. Still, I would think it should produce 400-500 watts into your 8Ω Rumble cab -- under whatever rating system they used to make the original assertion of 800 watts, that is. Edit: I wouldn't worry too much about the power -- it should be plenty.

Welcome to TB.

Still later edit: I see in the manual that they actually DO state the 800 watts at 4Ω rating is an RMS rating. Good!

 

[Nebadon2000]

If it is 400 at 8 Ohms[most likely] it will drive Rumble 2x10 to as loud as it can play.

The Rumble continuous power handling is 350 watts so a good match [700 watt rating is for program peaks only]

 

[PcYou367]

Hmmm... Harley Benton doesn't seem to publicize the power rating of the Bass Block 800 at 8Ω; all they ever say is '800 watts at 4Ω' -- in itself kind of nebulous because it doesn't even state if that's a continuous rating or a peak one. Still, I would think it should produce 400-500 watts into your 8Ω Rumble cab -- under whatever rating system they used to make the original assertion of 800 watts, that is. Edit: I wouldn't worry too much about the power -- it should be plenty.

Welcome to TB.

Still later edit: I see in the manual that they actually DO state the 800 watts at 4Ω rating is an RMS rating. Good!

If it is 400 at 8 Ohms[most likely] it will drive Rumble 2x10 to as loud as it can play.

The Rumble continuous power handling is 350 watts so a good match [700 watt rating is for program peaks only]

You guys think that the Laney Nexus 410 Cabinet is a better option for overall gigs and stuff then the Fender Rumble 210 Cabinet V3? i'm looking at that is going for 390€

 

[Hot Rats]

Think about picking up that nice Rumble 200 head that's in the classifieds.

 

[G-Dog]

Hi, i'm interested in a Fender Rumble 210 Cabinet V3 and ... pairing it with the Harley Benton Block-800B Amp, ... .... didn't wanted to spend more money then this combination but i have some questions and i'm really new and with lack of knowledge about this things... ... btw, it's my first time posting here... ... Thank you. ... ...

Welcome to TalkBass, Pc! There are a lot of fans of the Rumble 210 cabinet in the TalkBass Fender Rumble Club, if you'd like to discuss it there. It's a great bunch of people! Meanwhile, I'll give you my answers here. ​

... ... ... Do you guys think that with this combination i would be able to get a total of maybe 400-500watts of output?
Is this a bad option should i get something else? ... ....

A single Rumble 210 cab is 8 ohms, so it should draw something less than the full 800 watts from the HB Block-800B amp. If it's something close to 400 watts, then it should be a great match! If it's something much more than 400 watts, like 500 watts, then it could be too much for the Rumble 210. But the Rumble 410 should handle it just fine! It would help to know the HB Block-800B output at 8 ohms to make an informed decision. ​

... ... Harley Benton doesn't ... publicize the power rating of the Bass Block 800 at 8Ω; .... .... it should produce 400-500 watts into your 8Ω Rumble cab -- ... .... Edit: ... . ... ... Still later edit: I see in the manual that they actually DO state the 800 watts at 4Ω rating is an RMS rating. Good!

Thanks, Red! Good to know the "800 watts at 4 ohms" is RMS. RMS, and "continuous" are the most useful ratings. It still doesn't help choose an appropriate 8 ohm cab, though, without the 8 ohm output rating. The Rumble 210 might be good enough, but it might not! But, in my opinion, the 500 watts continuous rated (just like RMS) Rumble 410 would be good enough. ​

If it is 400 at 8 Ohms [ ... ... ] it will drive Rumble 2x10 to as loud as it can play. ... The Rumble continuous power handling [published rating] is 350 watts so a good match [700 watt rating is for program peaks only]

Yeah, Nebby! I suspect you might be allowing an extra 50 watts above the published 350 watts rating due to Fender's traditional conservative ratings? But, did you know that the exact same speakers in the Rumble 210 cab are also in the Fender Rumble Stage 800 combo amp, where they can routinely get up to 400 watts continuous in stock configuration? And, the same silver grille Rumble 210 cab is also produced with a black grille & hardware to match the "look" of the Rumble Stage 800 combo, where it could also routinely get another 400 watts continuous as an extension to the Stage combo, in order to reach the total nameplate 800 watts!! So, yeah, the "350 watt" Rumble 210 can easily handle 400 watts.

Sorry, PcYou, that this still isn't a definitive answer to your question, since we don't know the Harley Benton's output at 8 ohms. But I do hope you find some of this information helpful.
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[paskisti]

There is long discussionnin about the amp in German forum Bassic.de and some members have made tests and modifications for HB 800 amp. It has ICE power module and it's truly giving what it promises, however there is design errors in preamp section that prevents the true potency of the amp. 2-3 component swaps make it whole another level amp for diy people.

 

[PcYou367]

Welcome to TalkBass, Pc! There are a lot of fans of the Rumble 210 cabinet in the TalkBass Fender Rumble Club, if you'd like to discuss it there. It's a great bunch of people! Meanwhile, I'll give you my answers here. ​

A single Rumble 210 cab is 8 ohms, so it should draw something less than the full 800 watts from the HB Block-800B amp. If it's something close to 400 watts, then it should be a great match! If it's something much more than 400 watts, like 500 watts, then it could be too much for the Rumble 210. But the Rumble 410 should handle it just fine! It would help to know the HB Block-800B output at 8 ohms to make an informed decision. ​

Thanks, Red! Good to know the "800 watts at 4 ohms" is RMS. RMS, and "continuous" are the most useful ratings. It still doesn't help choose an appropriate 8 ohm cab, though, without the 8 ohm output rating. The Rumble 210 might be good enough, but it might not! But, in my opinion, the 500 watts continuous rated (just like RMS) Rumble 410 would be good enough. ​

Yeah, Nebby! I suspect you might be allowing an extra 50 watts above the published 350 watts rating due to Fender's traditional conservative ratings? But, did you know that the exact same speakers in the Rumble 210 cab are also in the Fender Rumble Stage 800 combo amp, where they can routinely get up to 400 watts continuous in stock configuration? And, the same silver grille Rumble 210 cab is also produced with a black grille & hardware to match the "look" of the Rumble Stage 800 combo, where it could also routinely get another 400 watts continuous as an extension to the Stage combo, in order to reach the total nameplate 800 watts!! So, yeah, the "350 watt" Rumble 210 can easily handle 400 watts.

Sorry, PcYou, that this still isn't a definitive answer to your question, since we don't know the Harley Benton's output at 8 ohms. But I do hope you find some of this information helpful.
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ty so much for the answer, what do you think about Laney Nexus 410 Cabinet vs the Fender Rumble 210 Cabinet with the same amp head, it's 40€ cheaper

 

[G-Dog]

ty so much for the answer, what do you think about Laney Nexus 410 Cabinet vs the Fender Rumble 210 Cabinet with the same amp head, it's 40€ cheaper

Hmmm, that seems suspicious. Your link says that cab is discontinued, so you must have found a used one. And the prices I'm seeing here in the U.S. are a lot more than for new Rumble cabs. Your cheaper one may be damaged for such a low price. Be wary! Personally, I'd feel much safer about a new Rumble 410 cab.
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