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Amp or Stack for Church?

#44
I wouldn't scoff at Peavey either--lots of bang for your buck. I like my Firebass (and I'm putting the full 700 into 2 ohms!) but I LOVED my Nitrobass--it had an okay tone, but it was indestructible and whisper quiet.

But hey, you like what you like. I liked my GK 700 RB, but it conked out on stage (just the fuse, but you can't change it without opening it up).
 
#46
MNAirHead said:
IN theory this works.. the issue is many sanctuaries are not conducive to bass.

IT's close to impossible to know what we really sound like from a cord's length distance.

How exactly do we control volume.. looking to learn details.

Tim
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I don't know about that, most large sanctuaries have a reverb sound to them and when I play in those I try to do a sound check with my rig, If I can't I found if I can hear myself then other out in the pews can hear me. Second If someone say they couldn't hear me in the back I turn up just a little and the most important I watch people faces. If the music to loud they will be rubbing they ears believe me.
 
#47
Chiming in on the Bose L1. I'm a Bassist & Sound Man. I use the L1 in many circumstances. It takes careful know how with the set up for bass when using with the Bose Tone Match. I know I have our system optimised & saved for Bass to the best possbile advantage, but in a church setting - it clouds the vocals even at low volume. I use the MarkBass MiniMark, it's brilliant, even thumpy at low volume if you want. In any religous setting - the lyrics are the most important. Bass has to be played as a backline pad, just filling the range that's missing. Don't DI to the Bose, even if they let you. I would advise looking for a 2nd hand MiniMark or Phil Jones Brief Case. You won't look back. You will be highly respected as a true professional for your consideration to the rest of the group. You have to borrow a wireless system and go walkabout on soundcheck as a one off to hear for yourself. It takes a lot of thump to damage an L1. Let me know what damage was done ? if any.... It may be just reacting to poor set up.
Q.) Are they using Tone Match Modules or an unpowered desk ?
 
#48
Bassman 100 said:
Chiming in on the Bose L1. I'm a Bassist & Sound Man. I use the L1 in many circumstances. It takes careful know how with the set up for bass when using with the Bose Tone Match. I know I have our system optimised & saved for Bass to the best possbile advantage, but in a church setting - it clouds the vocals even at low volume. I use the MarkBass MiniMark, it's brilliant, even thumpy at low volume if you want. In any religous setting - the lyrics are the most important. Bass has to be played as a backline pad, just filling the range that's missing. Don't DI to the Bose, even if they let you. I would advise looking for a 2nd hand MiniMark or Phil Jones Brief Case. You won't look back. You will be highly respected as a true professional for your consideration to the rest of the group. You have to borrow a wireless system and go walkabout on soundcheck as a one off to hear for yourself. It takes a lot of thump to damage an L1. Let me know what damage was done ? if any.... It may be just reacting to poor set up.
Q.) Are they using Tone Match Modules or an unpowered desk ?
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Sorry but it's much easier to simply dismiss gear rather than learn how to use it.
;)
 
#49
Brad Johnson said:
Sorry but it's much easier to simply dismiss gear rather than learn how to use it.
;)
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I suggest you read my post again. You’re totally missing the point here bud. I understand the Bose L1 system better than most on here. I have studied every parameter of it for every instrument & vocal range possible. (IMO) In a church setting, the bassist should be kept separate. Also he needs a lightweight combo or stack & I have given two good suggestions which are perfectly achievable on the second hand market within his budget.
 
#51
I'm using my regular stack for my church, the pa doesn't handle low B very well, even with subs. We're relatively young, loud group, no bluehairs in the pews, and more P&W urban gospel rather than traditional hymns also.

2 EA VL210's and 1500 watts to drive them. Of course, I'm not anywhere near full volume, need to be quiet enough so I can hear the keys/guitar...

Randy
 
#52
Bassman 100 said:
I suggest you read my post again. You’re totally missing the point here bud. I understand the Bose L1 system better than most on here. I have studied every parameter of it for every instrument & vocal range possible. (IMO) In a church setting, the bassist should be kept separate. Also he needs a lightweight combo or stack & I have given two good suggestions which are perfectly achievable on the second hand market within his budget.
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I could read your post again but I won't bother... I agreed with you upon the first read and I doubt that would change.

Hint: you weren't dismissing gear, you were talking about getting to know it. So I wasn't talking about you.
 

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