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amp settled. cabs unsettled....

Apr 5, 2001
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so after much deliberation I'm settled in with my Ampeg SVT 7 pro. Love it. Does what I want it to do (which is sound articulate, warm, and good).

On to my cabs- main gigging cab is a Bergantino 4-10 HD. Pretty much brand new. Thing sounds great (for the most part). I don't know if any of you guys have this cab but I hear a little hole in the lows- mids are fantastic, and there is a depth to the low notes (tuned low E), but on the low notes (E through Ab on the E string) it lack a little thickness. It's there, and the low mids are burly, but it doesn't kick you in the face, regardless of EQ.

That being said- it's a great cab- sounds super warm with the 7 pro, and get's plenty loud, just lacks a little thickness down low when really pushed.

What I'm thinkin-
I've got a bad back. There, I said it. I can't drag around my 8-10 anymore, although I have one in my garage. I also have a Genz Benz 2-15 XB (never really liked it) in my garage. I gigged a GK 1001 RB 2-10 combo (which I still have and still use as a practice amp) for years and that little bastard kicked hard. At the end of the day I'm thinking a proper 2 X 10 could handle a lot of what I do professionally....

SO my quandary-
Keep the Berg 4-10. Snag a 2-10 for smaller gigs. Bummer that the Berg is 4 ohm so I can't really stack the two for bigger gigs with the 7 pro (4 ohm), or can I?

Or- get rid of the Berg 410 and get two 2-10s to stack for mid sizes shows and bring a single for small gigs? I can keep the Ampeg 8-10 for the monster outdoor gigs (keep in mind I don't play hard rock and metal- more blues, singer songwriter, country, funk, reggae etc.)

For what it's worth the 4-10 is a pain to load. I typically am loading by myself and it's purtty heavy and awkward. I think I'd rather load two smaller cabs than one big one (especially with the rock cart).

Thoughts? And feel free to spout your favorite cabs (especially 2-10s or 2-12s). I've looked at everything out there but without playing them it's a tough call. Many go nuts on the Berg but I find them lacking a little tiny bit in some frequencies. Give me your thoughts- I appreciate it greatly!!
 
Ok, I just read your post and I think something like the Barefaced Super Twelve might be just what you’re looking for - it’s compact, super lightweight, powerful, good reviews, etc. http://barefacedbass.com/index.php?page=super-twelve

+1

The Barefaced stuff is really nice.

If it were me I would look to get a fEARful 12/6. With the 7 pro it will give you all the low end punch you want. It will also be louder than standard 210 or 212 cabs.
 
+1

The Barefaced stuff is really nice.

If it were me I would look to get a fEARful 12/6. With the 7 pro it will give you all the low end punch you want. It will also be louder than standard 210 or 212 cabs.

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Although I would add a 12/sub for gigs when you really gotta thump. But that's just me.:D
12/6 is 39lbs, 12/sub is around 30lbs
 

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as for regular "music store" cabs, a pair of compact 2x10s does make sense; one for little shows, and you can stack them vertically for the TB-approved "skinny tower".
 
My vote would be for either a pair of lightweight 210's or a fEARful 12/6 and 12sub. Both will give you a modular rig so you just use what you need for each gig.

That said, a 1212/6 is easier to haul than 2 cabs, and it really is a do-everything cab, but you will probably find a single 12/6 to be enough cab for most gigs.
 
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Although I would add a 12/sub for gigs when you really gotta thump. But that's just me.:D
12/6 is 39lbs, 12/sub is around 30lbs

^^^ With a rig like this, you could probably let all all your cabs go to fund the new purchase.

Or maybe just one of these would do the job: Micro-rigs of doom

Or a couple of these: Mini-rigs of doom

How about two 1x15 stack?

Take a look at what other TBr's are gigging with to get more info on what's out there:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f127/fs-audiokinesis-thunderchild-115af-882475/
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/baer-amplification-ml112-819546/
 
Ok, I just read your post and I think something like the Barefaced Super Twelve might be just what you’re looking for - it’s compact, super lightweight, powerful, good reviews, etc. http://barefacedbass.com/index.php?page=super-twelve

I've eyeballed those cabs. Do you have one? If you do I'd love to hear your experience with them.

It's funny- I'm a general contractor as well, and a good friend has a cabinet shop just down the street. Thought about the Fearful option- I can't seem to find many clips of those cabs, just tons of TBers going nuts on them. Guess I'll keep reading up. I'm not looking for a super hi fi sound- more warm, thick and punchy. I typically keep the horn off- not much slapping and popping or tapping/chords over here- meat and potatoes kinda guy....
 
I've eyeballed those cabs. Do you have one? If you do I'd love to hear your experience with them.

It's funny- I'm a general contractor as well, and a good friend has a cabinet shop just down the street. Thought about the Fearful option- I can't seem to find many clips of those cabs, just tons of TBers going nuts on them. Guess I'll keep reading up. I'm not looking for a super hi fi sound- more warm, thick and punchy. I typically keep the horn off- not much slapping and popping or tapping/chords over here- meat and potatoes kinda guy....

Where are you located? Most of the fEARful owners love inspiring GAS by letting others play through their cabs.
 
I don't know if any of you guys have this cab but I hear a little hole in the lows- mids are fantastic, and there is a depth to the low notes (tuned low E), but on the low notes (E through Ab on the E string) it lack a little thickness. It's there, and the low mids are burly, but it doesn't kick you in the face, regardless of EQ.

If it isn't there, it can't produce it.

Have you tried different strings?
 
If you have access to cabinet making tools (also can be purchased), fEARful is a great option. I am in the later stages of building a 15/6 out of Italian Poplar. Just waiting on the tolex for the baffle. The cab will weigh about 43LBS. Louder than any 410 out there and rivals 610s.

Sound clips are limited in usefulness due to so many variables. However, below is me with my AoN 15/6. No bass in PA. Amatuer video.

 
I've eyeballed those cabs. Do you have one? If you do I'd love to hear your experience with them.

It's funny- I'm a general contractor as well, and a good friend has a cabinet shop just down the street. Thought about the Fearful option- I can't seem to find many clips of those cabs, just tons of TBers going nuts on them. Guess I'll keep reading up. I'm not looking for a super hi fi sound- more warm, thick and punchy. I typically keep the horn off- not much slapping and popping or tapping/chords over here- meat and potatoes kinda guy....

No, I use stacked 15s and I thought of fearful but didn’t recommend because you asked about 212s and not 2-way cabs (12/6, etc) so based on your opening post is why I recommend the Barefaced Super Twelve, and again now along with what you say here I “think” something like the Super Twelve is what you may be looking for and not a 2 or 3-way cabinet design. Anyway, I hope you find a cabinet you like.