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Ampeg rb 110 vs Fender rumble lt25?
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A closer comparison is the Ampeg RB110 (50 watts, 1x10") and the Fender Rumble 40 (40 watts, 1x10"). They are very close in specs and features, while each delivers a bit of their signature tone. Both offer some kind of overdrive effect, but I don't consider that as an especially strong selling point.
The LT25 has a smaller speaker (8" vs 10") and is only 25 watts, but has a plethora of built-in effects and amp models. If you're new to effects, it's a handy way to explore them without buying a coffin of pedals. I can't speak to how good the amp modeling is, but it does offer a lot of different flavors.
Any of these would be very good practice amps, and none of them will be enough when you want to start playing with other musicians.
The LT25 has a smaller speaker (8" vs 10") and is only 25 watts, but has a plethora of built-in effects and amp models. If you're new to effects, it's a handy way to explore them without buying a coffin of pedals. I can't speak to how good the amp modeling is, but it does offer a lot of different flavors.
Any of these would be very good practice amps, and none of them will be enough when you want to start playing with other musicians.
If you are paying at home, both will be fine. I have the fender rumble 40 and it is great. Fender will give you more options for tone, but can't go won't with either.
I will go with Studio 40 if i crazy need build-in effect.
But, i highly recommend at least either Rb112 or Rumble 100 (100 watts) for beginner bassist instead low watts 8' and 10' driver combo.
This valuable advise !!!!
Any of these would be very good practice amps, and none of them will be enough when you want to start playing with other musicians.
But, i highly recommend at least either Rb112 or Rumble 100 (100 watts) for beginner bassist instead low watts 8' and 10' driver combo.
This valuable advise !!!!
Any of these would be very good practice amps, and none of them will be enough when you want to start playing with other musicians.
Each of the two amps have their advantages. For me, the RB110 was easily my choice. The RB series has strong Ampeg DNA. I love that sonic fingerprint. You may not.
I am going to diverge from the above posters in three ways. Both the RB110 and Rumble 40 have DI outputs. Plug them into the PA and the two amps’ low power is alleviated. I am assuming your band would have a PA. Next, I don’t think the RB112 or Rumble 100 will have the power for a punk band. At 60 watts I measure 3 feet from the RB110 giving an on-axis SPL for the clean channel with the volume dimed and tone controls at 12 o’clock at 110 dB. 100 watts will only give you a few more dB. (Using a Fender Player Jazz bass with stock pickups and using a Fender medium pick with the bass in the 0 dB input). That won’t cut it for a loud band like those I have played in. You should probably go for the 115 or 210 in either line if you aren’t going to use a PA. Last, check out the Ashdown, Orange, and GK offerings at somewhat similar price points before you make a decision. I hope my thoughts/opinions are helpful.
I am going to diverge from the above posters in three ways. Both the RB110 and Rumble 40 have DI outputs. Plug them into the PA and the two amps’ low power is alleviated. I am assuming your band would have a PA. Next, I don’t think the RB112 or Rumble 100 will have the power for a punk band. At 60 watts I measure 3 feet from the RB110 giving an on-axis SPL for the clean channel with the volume dimed and tone controls at 12 o’clock at 110 dB. 100 watts will only give you a few more dB. (Using a Fender Player Jazz bass with stock pickups and using a Fender medium pick with the bass in the 0 dB input). That won’t cut it for a loud band like those I have played in. You should probably go for the 115 or 210 in either line if you aren’t going to use a PA. Last, check out the Ashdown, Orange, and GK offerings at somewhat similar price points before you make a decision. I hope my thoughts/opinions are helpful.
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Basic Beginner? Save money and get a very inexpensive, basic bass amp, such as the Fender Rumble 15 or 25 or Ampeg RB-108. Try them both out at your nearest music store and buy the sound you like best. Then practice, practice practice. Get better equipment later, when you have more experience and have developed your own tastes more.
Advanced Beginner? Spend a bit to get a bit better, more powerful bass amp, such as the Rumble 40, 100 or 200, or the RB-110, RB-112 or RB-115. Again, try them out to buy the sound you like. Then practice, practice, practice. And find other musicians to play with.
Impatient ADHD Beginner? Try a Fender bass modeling amp with lots of different voices and built-in effects to keep your interest up, if that's what it takes. The Rumble LT25 has several different amp and effects models, or "voices". Its 25 watts is good for home practice, and it has only a single stereo USB connection to your computer for recording or creating your own combinations of amps & effects.
The Rumble Studio 40 has lots more amps, cabs and effects models than the LT25. Its 40 watts is sufficient to jam with other musicians of similar low volume levels. And it has stereo connections for external FX pedals and professional grade XLR Outputs to PA and recording boards.
The point of bass modeling amps is the wide variety of different sounds you can get to keep you interested in playing, regardless of how 'accurately' they sound like the named models. But the key is still to practice, practice, practice!
Hope this helps.
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Basic Beginner? Save money and get a very inexpensive, basic bass amp, such as the Fender Rumble 15 or 25 or Ampeg RB-108. Try them both out at your nearest music store and buy the sound you like best. Then practice, practice practice. Get better equipment later, when you have more experience and have developed your own tastes more.
Advanced Beginner? Spend a bit to get a bit better, more powerful bass amp, such as the Rumble 40, 100 or 200, or the RB-110, RB-112 or RB-115. Again, try them out to buy the sound you like. Then practice, practice, practice. And find other musicians to play with.
Impatient ADHD Beginner? Try a Fender bass modeling amp with lots of different voices and built-in effects to keep your interest up, if that's what it takes. The Rumble LT25 has several different amp and effects models, or "voices". Its 25 watts is good for home practice, and it has only a single stereo USB connection to your computer for recording or creating your own combinations of amps & effects.
The Rumble Studio 40 has lots more amps, cabs and effects models than the LT25. Its 40 watts is sufficient to jam with other musicians of similar low volume levels. And it has stereo connections for external FX pedals and professional grade XLR Outputs to PA and recording boards.
The point of bass modeling amps is the wide variety of different sounds you can get to keep you interested in playing, regardless of how 'accurately' they sound like the named models. But the key is still to practice, practice, practice!
Hope this helps.
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Great summary. This post should probably be stickied for everyone needing beginner amp advice.
Can your RB110 able sound no fart or distorted on 3 o'clock volume ? Both RB112 and 115 able do it with 12k P pickup(more output than player J pup ). Since I own both,, currently keep the rb112, in same volume knob level, they are no volume different on them except wider low end spread on RB115.
From your own 12 o'clock volume theory statement, sound like rb110 has same league on volume output to RB112, even RB115 .....
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You nailed the impatient ADHD beginner part lol. I think I'll go with LT25 model for now and practice, practice, practice! Thank you so much for a great summary!
Ok, basket, but be aware of the limited single USB connection of the LT25. The Rumble Studio 40 has more models & effects and more connections to sound reinforcement and recording. Yeah, it costs more, but it's really worth it.
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I had a chance to test out the RB110 today. For the bass pickup, with the volume on the clean channel (n SGT) at 2:30 there is no breakup. At 3:00 I get breakup. At full volume, it is fart city and unusable. Now for the treble pickup, I can put the volume at max and not even get a hint of breakup. For the bass pickup, I can get up to 95 dB measured on-axis for the E string with the bass pickup only before undesirable distortion. For the treble pickup, I can get 102 dB of clean sound. The 110 dB mentioned in my earlier post was max volume and a distorted mess, at least in IMO. Some people might like that amount of breakup. The 112 and 115 might give you a bit more clean head room?
First, player Jazz bass pickups has less output compare to 12k P pup, second, each pickups run on J bass has no such strong MID voice as P pup.
On my test, the RB110 just get fart on A string B to D# note before 2.30 volume. So, result notable on this comparison .
RB112 and RB115 for sure has enough headroom than RB110, amp watts , driver size and cab size are key factor.
All different watts/size combo has their purpose. I am just trust my ear, testing equipment , amp placement distance rather than your personal dB theory on RB110 Vs RB112.
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G-Dog's take is very accurate and helpful!
My input:
After almost 3 years with neither a bass nor an amp I was finally in the market for a new beginning. I bought a second-hand Fender Rumble LT25 and TBH I couldn't care less about the effects and emulators, the tuner was very handy though. It was the first time I had an 8" speaker combo amp and could never get the "real bass-playing feeling" out of it (not even at max volume could it make the windows rattle a little). After 4 months, I went to a store to try a new bass and was handed an Ampeg BA-110 to try it and BOOM!, WOW!, YEAH! I need this! After one week I bought an Ampeg RB-112 and I've been completely happy with it since then.
My experience tells me that you should at least use a 10" speaker to get the "real bass feeling", even when practicing, and at least 100w / 12" speaker to decently rehearse with others. As G-Dog said, if you are completely new and maybe don't know if you'll be playing bass for a long time, a 15-25w combo should be enough.
My input:
After almost 3 years with neither a bass nor an amp I was finally in the market for a new beginning. I bought a second-hand Fender Rumble LT25 and TBH I couldn't care less about the effects and emulators, the tuner was very handy though. It was the first time I had an 8" speaker combo amp and could never get the "real bass-playing feeling" out of it (not even at max volume could it make the windows rattle a little). After 4 months, I went to a store to try a new bass and was handed an Ampeg BA-110 to try it and BOOM!, WOW!, YEAH! I need this! After one week I bought an Ampeg RB-112 and I've been completely happy with it since then.
My experience tells me that you should at least use a 10" speaker to get the "real bass feeling", even when practicing, and at least 100w / 12" speaker to decently rehearse with others. As G-Dog said, if you are completely new and maybe don't know if you'll be playing bass for a long time, a 15-25w combo should be enough.
Wait until you have a few more bucks and get an Ampeg RB112.
That’s where the fun really starts for a bass player.
That’s where the fun really starts for a bass player.
Glad that you choose the Ampeg RB112, now you need second unit and add some dirt to build your small SVT ....
Incredible setup bro! I read the entire RocketBass thread and found your stack VERY tempting. But, for real, it would be too much for me ATM. Maybe later down the road.... Do you use an instrument cable to daisy chain the amps?Glad that you choose the Ampeg RB112, now you need second unit and add some dirt to build your small SVT ....
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Also read your take on the Caline pedal. I'll probably get it next month, I'll report my experience
That stacked are pretty simple setup , effect send from top unit to effect return on bottom unit. Bottom unit as active extend cab, everything control by top unit.Incredible setup bro! I read the entire RocketBass thread and found your stack VERY tempting. But, for real, it would be too much for me ATM. Maybe later down the road.... Do you use an instrument cable to daisy chain the amps?
Also read your take on the Caline pedal. I'll probably get it next month, I'll report my experience
In real world, Wine cellar sound more juicy and lively than Joyo Tidal Wave. Place the Joyo R after Wine Cellar to create grindy SVT-ist tonal, meanwhile place the Fender Bassman Driver last for Superbassman creamy scoop overdrive tone.
While we’re at it, are your two RB112 more than loud enough when playing with a hard hitting drummer in a medium sized room ?
