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Ampeg SVT-2 speaker jack stuck, melted!?

#21
Turkeypills said:
It appears that you turned it into a hardcore analysis of the ins and outs of rehearsal when you clearly defined the standard for what is or isn't a productive rehearsal teeters on how loud one isn't playing, which is laughable.

I can only imagine how much coffee I'd need to have to stay awake through that rehearsal.
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Nooooooope. I initially only said something about pushing am SVT II in practice. End of story. I was dragged into an explanation of why I bothered bringing it up.

And, again, I love a jam session.... as long as I know that's what it is going in. But if you're going to call it a rehearsal I'm coming to get something done. And if you think you can work on blending vocals, nailing chord changes, or arranging material at ear splitting levels without having to stop and have a meeting every ten seconds you are kidding yourself.

Thanks for missing the point. :thumbsup:
 
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I missed nothing. I rehearse louder than most performances and perform far louder. I push 100w and 120w tube amps into two 810s or two 215s. I have two guitarists who each use two 412s and two 100w marshalls. I play heavy metal. It's supposed to be loud. When we are focused at rehearsal, there is a quick rundown discussed and then we play it. We don't need to have a discussion while playing because we all practice at home and know the songs inside and out. We know the stops and the changes. The transitions and vocals are no problem. We jam as well, but not when we are hashing hints out or rehearsing finished material.

Sorry to burst your theory, but there are many people who can effectively rehearse at loud volumes. How are we supposed to blend vocals properly at 1/10th the volume? It just doesn't sound the same.
 
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Bad soldering/contact in a speaker plug can easily get warm enough to melt cheap plastic. Lesson: buy good quality cables and plugs.

Turkeypills said:
I missed nothing. I rehearse louder than most performances and perform far louder. I push 100w and 120w tube amps into two 810s or two 215s. I have two guitarists who each use two 412s and two 100w marshalls. I play heavy metal. It's supposed to be loud.
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Sure, you play metal and it feels good when playing loud. The problem seems to be you put pride in emitting excessive SPL just for the sake of it and indulges in some kind of pissing contest with guitarists. Not a good idea! Lesson: grow up.
 
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Ulf_Hansson said:
Bad soldering/contact in a speaker plug can easily get warm enough to melt cheap plastic. Lesson: buy good quality cables and plugs.



Sure, you play metal and it feels good when playing loud. The problem seems to be you put pride in emitting excessive SPL just for the sake of it and indulges in some kind of pissing contest with guitarists. Not a good idea! Lesson: grow up.
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Lol. No pissing contest here my man. I'm not sure what a preference for loud has to do with my level of maturity. I am proud of my volume and SPL. Why shouldn't I be? We have no issues getting gigs at local metal venues. Maybe you take offense at people who enjoy and are capable of loud rehearsal and performance. Your opinion and preference indicate nothing about how "grown up" I am. The fact that my preferences stir up such remarks and strong opinions from you might indicate how grown up you are.

I'm done with this wacky thread. I'm not here for a flame war with bassists that seem to think their way of doing things is the only way of doing things.

As long as a player is enjoying themselves, who are you to define what is right, wrong or proper regarding rehearsal practices.
 
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agedhorse said:
Protect your ears man, or you will be proud of your hearing aids later on. This is something you can't change later.
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Always. My ears are damaged enough from early years of throwing caution to the wind and a decade of marching band. It's never fun standing in front of 30 trumpets belting double Cs as loud as they can.

I use a brand called ear peace. They were cheap, maybe 10 bucks, but they do an excellent job and allow me to hear the mix and balance easily.
 
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Lots of lol going on here, not sure if I should pitch in at all, but i'll put out a little "it's not all black and white".

Ulf: no melted plastic, how much money could you even save on buying speakon-jack cables? I'll ask the guy I bought it from, I have just never seen any cheap cables of the sort, and cannot fathom how anyone, let alone a professional musician would spend for a stack like that and then save pennies on cables..
 
#33
agedhorse said:
One thing that I have seen more and more these days is the cheap off-shore speaker cables with plugs that look like real plugs but do not share the sampe proper dimensions, nor on 1/4" plugs, the critical dimensions of the tip relief radius. If the radius is too tight, or asymmetrical in the wrong aspect, it can cause some tip jack contacts to get stuck and the tip contact folds under causing the plug to jam. Classic case of saving a dollar to spend $50 in repairs.
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That's exactly what happened to one of the output jack on my Mesa 400. The cheap cable made the tip contact fold over and the cable got stuck. Then idiot me pulled harder and broke the rest of the contact arm off.
 
#34
mikeswals said:
That's exactly what happened to one of the output jack on my Mesa 400. The cheap cable made the tip contact fold over and the cable got stuck. Then idiot me pulled harder and broke the rest of the contact arm off.
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Well, at least by that time the damage was already done.
 
#37
Newsbump, finally got there. Fuse is lower than given rating, and the plastic end of plug has melted around the tip of the jack. Kinda lousy cam pic, but should give a good idea..
Gonna get it to service, but any ideas on what might have gone down? Could there have been a continuous bad connection between tip and Jack that has caused the tip to heat?
 

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#38
Bad connection, defective plug most likely though the jack contact could have been damaged previously causing the same problem. The jack needs to be replaced, any qualified service center should have the parts on hand, though there are several versions of this style jack that are not interchangeable.

This is not an issue with properly functioning plugs/jacks.
 

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