Have three questions about these cabs...
which of the two has the best room filling capabillities? I now play an Ashdown mag300 with the mag810, and I have the problem that when on small stages I'm really close to the cab, the sound just passes under me and doesn't reach my ear while I'm plenty/too loud in the audience. This really sucks, cause I have such a big cab and I still can't hear myself... and playing without hearing oneself leads to mistakes...
Also with this setup the sound isn't evenly spread across the room, some areas it's too loud, some places it's awesome, other areas it's inaudible. I like to stray on bigger stages and I want the bass to be everywhere (or at least almost everywhere) at the same time.
Another thing: my situation gives me reasons to buy either the 610 or the 215, and I just can't decide... please help! (both is not an option, two years of college to go)
I'm in a metalband where the guitars are dropped half a step and both guitarists do the midscoop. Now I know that the NV610 will cut right through that heap of distortion mayhem, but I'm afraid it will be in an obnocious way... Both of my guitarists are really, really great and me, not so much. I don't want to get in their way by cutting through too much, you know? I just want to lay a solid foundation with the drums for them, with the occasional short lead bassline... I really want to be IN the mix, not through the mix like I don't actually belong there.
Due to their scooped mids, the guitarists put out a lot of bass (not too much), but I've read that guitar bass = bassguitar low mid, is this true?
If it is, I better get the NV215 so I can get beneath them and use the high mids that this cab has as the filling in the midscoops of the guitarists. In this case I also would be afraid that the NV610 would put out a lot in that same frequency range as the guitarists, creating a buch of mud, which we don't want.
If it's not true and guitar bass is in the same frequency area as bassguitar bass, than I better get the NV610 and fill out their midscoops with the midpresence of this cab...
What I really want is a sound that fills out the sound of the band, that makes us the raging bulldozer we almost are. I don't want to have a tone that's too egoïstic, you know? And I'm afraid that the NV610 will be that. On the other hand, I don't know if I want deep, deep bass (never really heard it since the mag isn't capable of it).
Last question is for Tom Bowlus, I know you like the 215 best, but is this still true with the Traynor yba?
I'm really torn, I think I posed all my questions and concerns and hope that you guys can shed some light in the darkness
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Thanks for bearing with me through this long long post.
PS for those who want to know I play a bass tuned BbEbAbDb (and saving for a fiver). I currently play almost everything with a pick, but I'm practicing very hard to stop using them after new year.
PSS for those in Europe, Bergantino finally has a European (UK) dealer!!!
PSSS for those who are gonna say, you should convince your guitarists to use less bass and more mids. I tried and was almost there, but then they went to a clinic of Marcel Coenen (Best guitarist in the Netherlands) and he said 'cut your mids'. Al my work down the drain... But I don't mind, I think they sound pretty good with drums, I just want to find my place in the mix...
PSSSS for those who are gonna say, leave those low frequency stealing b*st*rds, I won't, but thanks for your concern.
PSSSSS it's really done, you may start answering.
which of the two has the best room filling capabillities? I now play an Ashdown mag300 with the mag810, and I have the problem that when on small stages I'm really close to the cab, the sound just passes under me and doesn't reach my ear while I'm plenty/too loud in the audience. This really sucks, cause I have such a big cab and I still can't hear myself... and playing without hearing oneself leads to mistakes...
Also with this setup the sound isn't evenly spread across the room, some areas it's too loud, some places it's awesome, other areas it's inaudible. I like to stray on bigger stages and I want the bass to be everywhere (or at least almost everywhere) at the same time.
Another thing: my situation gives me reasons to buy either the 610 or the 215, and I just can't decide... please help! (both is not an option, two years of college to go)
I'm in a metalband where the guitars are dropped half a step and both guitarists do the midscoop. Now I know that the NV610 will cut right through that heap of distortion mayhem, but I'm afraid it will be in an obnocious way... Both of my guitarists are really, really great and me, not so much. I don't want to get in their way by cutting through too much, you know? I just want to lay a solid foundation with the drums for them, with the occasional short lead bassline... I really want to be IN the mix, not through the mix like I don't actually belong there.
Due to their scooped mids, the guitarists put out a lot of bass (not too much), but I've read that guitar bass = bassguitar low mid, is this true?
If it is, I better get the NV215 so I can get beneath them and use the high mids that this cab has as the filling in the midscoops of the guitarists. In this case I also would be afraid that the NV610 would put out a lot in that same frequency range as the guitarists, creating a buch of mud, which we don't want.
If it's not true and guitar bass is in the same frequency area as bassguitar bass, than I better get the NV610 and fill out their midscoops with the midpresence of this cab...
What I really want is a sound that fills out the sound of the band, that makes us the raging bulldozer we almost are. I don't want to have a tone that's too egoïstic, you know? And I'm afraid that the NV610 will be that. On the other hand, I don't know if I want deep, deep bass (never really heard it since the mag isn't capable of it).
Last question is for Tom Bowlus, I know you like the 215 best, but is this still true with the Traynor yba?
I'm really torn, I think I posed all my questions and concerns and hope that you guys can shed some light in the darkness
.Thanks for bearing with me through this long long post.
PS for those who want to know I play a bass tuned BbEbAbDb (and saving for a fiver). I currently play almost everything with a pick, but I'm practicing very hard to stop using them after new year.
PSS for those in Europe, Bergantino finally has a European (UK) dealer!!!
PSSS for those who are gonna say, you should convince your guitarists to use less bass and more mids. I tried and was almost there, but then they went to a clinic of Marcel Coenen (Best guitarist in the Netherlands) and he said 'cut your mids'. Al my work down the drain... But I don't mind, I think they sound pretty good with drums, I just want to find my place in the mix...
PSSSS for those who are gonna say, leave those low frequency stealing b*st*rds, I won't, but thanks for your concern.
PSSSSS it's really done, you may start answering.
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