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Another 'will this work' question.

Vanceman

Vanceman

Feb 14, 2007
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#1
Were putting on a tribute, with a lot of different musicians performing, as groups, soloists, etc. We will be miking and DI-ing everything. Of course, every guitar player wants his own amp up there, and luckily, they're all fairly small 15 watters or so. There will be two keyboards, 8 guitar amps, bass, drums, percussion, and about 8 vocal mics on stage.

Last time we did this, the bass amp was a swr900/610 cab just for stage monitoring, and di'ed to FOH with subs. I hated the sound on stage, and in the room it was very indistinct. 12,000 ft sound stage, 300 people, btw. Didn't have professional help, just everyone pitched in amps, pa's, etc, and we did the mixing. Not too bad, but I want to improve the sound this time.

I want to use a Mesa Walkabout 12 on stage, DI to the board, out to a power amp, and use a 410 or 610 cab exclusively in front. I think the bass will sound better. Opinions? Am I missing something here?
 
#5
JimmyM said:
If you can keep stage volume down, it does help in the PA, but you also have to be comfortable onstage.
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I play with a bergantino single 12 in a salsa band. lots of mics, lots of percussion. it is about the PA doing the heavy lifting. try to have a good set of subs with their own dedicated power amp if passive, or nicely powered active system. the key to good bass response in the PA is the subs and the crossover freq you use.

those guitar amps will be mic'd. prolly with 57's. if they're staying in normal tuning, no reason to let any of the lows enter those mics. lowest note on a guitar is 81Hz.

Singers do not need to have anything lower that 200hz going through the mic so if you have a low cut on your board, use it for the vocals. I hate it when voc mics add un needed freqs from the stage volume.

when you have lots of the same mic your overall sound starts to take on the mic's characteristics. so be mindful how many 57, 58's etc are turned on at a time.

Lots of mics and a large group of musicians is tough to do. try to pinpoint what freqs are going to which mics and amplify only those and you should get a great house mix. you should will also be able to attain a great monitor mix allowing for less heavy lifting from the amps onstage giving you a more pure onstage volume. it is all about control,........and money!

walterw said:
you mean try to rig up a bass cab as a front of house speaker, just for bass?*

i don't see it ending well.
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This guy knows his stuff


If i sounded condescending, I completely apologize.
 
#6
walterw - yes, I was thinking of using my 410 as FOH, bass only. What bad things can happen? Would I be risking blowing it up?

redleg - it sounds like I should use the low cut at 80 hz for guitars too. In my band, where I do the sound, I normally use the low cut on all vocal channels. In addition to a bunch of the same mics, we will have a bunch of different monitors on stage, Yamahas, Carvins, and some with no identifying badges.
 

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