I have a Ripper that I purchased new in '78. I consider it to be my first pro-grade axe. I also have '92 T-Bird my wife gave me as an anniversary gift. For the last 6-7 years my main bass has been a fretless Alembic Epic 4 which the wife gave me as a birthday gift...damn, I'm blessed in this area. All 3 basses can be seen in the gallery of my band website, Link Removed. Sorry, but I don't know how to create a link. I alternate the Gibsons as back-ups and usually play 5 or 6 tunes per gig on them to give my hands a rest from the fretless. The Ripper is heavy as hell and suffers from a mild case of neck dive which is remedied to some extent by a 4" wide strap. I've tried many other basses which were far worse in this area. IMHO it is very versatile tonally after I got used to the 4 way P-up selector. This bass still feels like home to me. MY T-Bird has basically 2 good sounds but they seem to work in most settings I've played in. No neck dive. Every other 'Bird I've tried suffers in this area, maybe I just got a good one. To close, I love my Gibsons and only stopped using them as my main basses because I prefer to play fretless now. Kerry