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Double Bass Any interest in a Youtube series using Simandl method on an EUB?

sonicnuance

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Hello,
I made a New Year's resolution to improve my intonation and bowing on my EUB via cracking the Simandl book open after years of neglect. In studying Simandl this last month I have a new appreciation for it. However, I do find downsides to the book. Namely the position section isn't very musical and I find a reference audio track helps me a LOT in improving intonation and familiarity in the positions. So I have decided to make my own lessons using the Simandl method of fingerings to address this.

It occurred to me that others might be interested in a set of videos where I provide the lesson midi and standard notation files and demonstrate how to use them. What are your thoughts? I'm not looking at selling the lessons. Just trying to gauge if whether investing time in this endeavor will be of use to others. I've included an excerpt of one of the lessons to give you an idea of what I'm thinking of.

Thanks,
sonicnuance

P.S. I have a BSX Allegro Acoustic that I love
 

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Hello,
I made a New Year's resolution to improve my intonation and bowing on my EUB via cracking the Simandl book open after years of neglect. In studying Simandl this last month I have a new appreciation for it. However, I do find downsides to the book. Namely the position section isn't very musical and I find a reference audio track helps me a LOT in improving intonation and familiarity in the positions. So I have decided to make my own lessons using the Simandl method of fingerings to address this.

It occurred to me that others might be interested in a set of videos where I provide the lesson midi and standard notation files and demonstrate how to use them. What are your thoughts? I'm not looking at selling the lessons. Just trying to gauge if whether investing time in this endeavor will be of use to others. I've included an excerpt of one of the lessons to give you an idea of what I'm thinking of.

Thanks,
sonicnuance

P.S. I have a BSX Allegro Acoustic that I love

I'll start off by saying that I admire your desire to do such a thing, and it wouldn't be a waste of time for you.
BUT ...
1. The fact that it's EUB instead of acoustic double bass adds nothing. Simandl is useful for anyone with an instrument based on the double bass... except that AFAIK some EUBs are not designed for bowing.
2. There are already recordings available of the Simandl etudes - even "music minus one" style, where you can play along with piano accompaniment.
3. Although the Simandl etudes as originally written are (I think) in the public domain, the edited versions used by so many of us may not be.
4. Simandl is supposed to be challenging, and yes, much of it is not very musical. Part of the value in grinding through the exercises and etudes is that you can play them as slowly as needed, sometimes a measure at a time. Additionally, Simandl, at least the first time through, should be done with a teacher. I don't see that midi would be any more valuable than using a drone, or a metronome, or the already-recorded versions.

So ... raining on your parade. Sorry, but you did ask!:thumbsup:
 
I'll start off by saying that I admire your desire to do such a thing, and it wouldn't be a waste of time for you.
BUT ...
1. The fact that it's EUB instead of acoustic double bass adds nothing. Simandl is useful for anyone with an instrument based on the double bass... except that AFAIK some EUBs are not designed for bowing.
2. There are already recordings available of the Simandl etudes - even "music minus one" style, where you can play along with piano accompaniment.
3. Although the Simandl etudes as originally written are (I think) in the public domain, the edited versions used by so many of us may not be.
4. Simandl is supposed to be challenging, and yes, much of it is not very musical. Part of the value in grinding through the exercises and etudes is that you can play them as slowly as needed, sometimes a measure at a time. Additionally, Simandl, at least the first time through, should be done with a teacher. I don't see that midi would be any more valuable than using a drone, or a metronome, or the already-recorded versions.

So ... raining on your parade. Sorry, but you did ask!:thumbsup:
I appreciate the response. My particular EUB is similar to the real thing and is designed for bowing and pizz. I don't currently own a double bass otherwise I likely would use that for any videos. But I see what you mean on all your points.

thanks
 
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Producing good lessons on video is extremely time consuming. You may want to try your ideas out in a concept video and float it here for reactions. If you've got a knack for it, could turn out to be very useful! I'm about to dive into Simandl I and am, well -- frankly, not too excited about it. :smug:
I did a test recording just now, and you're right, it is a LOT of work. Also, it wasn't all that interesting watching myself playing scales and melodic passages slooooowly (not to mention trying to not make mistakes) :) I'm going to rethink what it is i want to show in the video. It might be more useful to give out the lessons written in standard notation with the ability to play along with software and provide an explanation video of how to use them. Dunno but thanks for the feedback, it was quite helpful. I like your idea of providing a concept video to get reactions.
 

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