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Any Rules For Mixing Cabinets?
- Thread starter Mike SS
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design flaw. They block access to the beer. Moved them to the side.Actually those are sealed mids I was testing for an array for the high channel. Not a posed picture but I saw the humor in it and snapped a shot.
Not uncommon to see humor in my methods
Some of the things I've tried turn out funny, too. (provided you appreciate a little dark humor now and then.)
Actually those are sealed mids I was testing for an array for the high channel. Not a posed picture but I saw the humor in it and snapped a shot.
Not uncommon to see humor in my methods
So how long did it take you to discover that serious design flaw.
Hey MODS, are we done yet? This thread was fun. Can we start a new thread? Something such as; Would you cheat on your mate for a brand new rig of your choice? Oh yeah- the rules, nevermind.
The 'general opinion' or rule around talkbass is not to mix cabinets.
Others will tell you......cab mixing is fun, why not? Others will be absolutely dead against it.
As I've had the fun experiment of owning the entire line of Mesa Powerhouse Cabinet, all were 8 ohms except for the PH412 and PH810 which were of course 4 ohm here was my conclusion - I didn't enjoy any of Mesa's cabs mixed together. They sounded best when paired with the same cab. I didn't like the PH412 and PH810 together either.
So, what I recommend to anyone asking about my experience with bass cabs is......find ONE cabinet that works best for you......if you want more volume or have some power reserve left over in your amp (if you're using an 8 ohm cab and your amp will do 4 ohms)........buy a second of the exact same cabinet or try moving up to a bigger cabinet.
I'd stick with the 410 for now......if he can handle lugging it around......down the road maybe a second 410 would be good, but I think I'd get an amp that produces a bit more output if went that route. You might want to swap the 8ohm 410 for a 4 ohm 410 too. Max power into one cab.With just 200W at 8 ohms, that isn't a whole lot, 350W would be better. One last option, might be to swap that 8 ohm 410 for two 8 ohm 2x10's. Many players are using much more portable cabs now (like 1x12's or even 1x10's) that can handle that power output very well.
Good luck!
A few guidelines to be cautious of:
- Combining a 2 ohm 12 with 2 4 ohm 12s will cause an explosion that will most likely kill you, and some audience members
- Any combination where the total speaker radius comes out as a Prime Number will cause you to go back in time
- Stacking really heavy things on small, fragile things can cause disaster
- The only real combination you should consider is (from bottom up,) 2 18s side by side, 2 15s side by side, 6 810s stacked in two rows of 3, and one single 8 inch speaker balanced on the top of the stack
- You may want to start working out at the gym
Yes! great pic if you're on that side of the fence.
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I'd say whatever sounds good and isn't going to blow up is probably fine. I ran a 410 with a 115 (of different brands. THE HORROR!) for years with no downside. If the set up sounds good and everything has an adequate power rating to handle the amp, you should be just fine. That said, I am not running that rig any more. the particular 15 I had didn't go any lower than the 410, and is less articulate (I like articulate). That said, the 410 +15 wasn't really worse than either cab on it's own. The ill effects were mostly from the 115 being kind of lame. Still, if I needed a big rig, i'd probably do 2 410s at this point. There are a lot of 10 and 12 cabs that put out as much bass as a 15 these days
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but the new Mesa Subway 112 and 115 cabs were designed to work together. I have two of the Subway 112's and one of the 115's, and those three cabs stacked together sound absolutely amazing. So mixing driver sizes can work fine, if the engineer designed them to work together. I've also heard great things about running a Gallien-Krueger Neo 410 and 212 cab together, both 8 ohms.
There's many opinions and NO rules. True fact projection of mixed size cabs might not be optimal from a hi-fi point of view but then a bass stack is not supposed to sound hi-fi is it? Room accoustics will take their toll whatever cab(s) you bring. It is the downside of producing the lowest frequencies in the mix.
Any Rules For Mixing Cabinets?
Here's a rule I heard for mixing pie, maybe it helps here?
Mixing Cow Pie and Apple Pie
The Cow Pie won't taste any better.
It can only hurt the taste of Apple pie.
Here's a rule I heard for mixing pie, maybe it helps here?
Mixing Cow Pie and Apple Pie
The Cow Pie won't taste any better.
It can only hurt the taste of Apple pie.
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Another classic response on this topic ... if someone disagrees with you ... call them a troll
Right after taking the pic! Also discovered I lacked connectors to safely test both types together. Funny the woofer sounded best in its shipping box. Tried it packed into a corner of the couch wrapped in bed linen and mounted to the 2x4 ft face of the eventual cab.
Learning is difficult for those who won't listen to people who disagree. I guess some have learned all there is or all they need.
