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Any trade offs with GR Bass?

#41
Relsom said:
This got me wondering about the durability of the GR cabs and headed me to look into the Barefaced option. ...

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Wow, that's someone just not taking good care of expensive equipment in my opinion.

I have tons of gigs on all of the GR cabinets that I've owned and I don't have any scratches on them, let alone it doesn't look like it was dropped from the top of the building like that one does either. That's on the individual just not taken care of good gear in my opinion, but each to their own.
 
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Barticus said:
Wow, that's someone just not taking good care of expensive equipment in my opinion.

I have tons of gigs on all of the GR cabinets that I've owned and I don't have any scratches on them, let alone it doesn't look like it was dropped from the top of the building like that one does either. That's on the individual just not taken care of good gear in my opinion, but each to their own.
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I hope that's the case. I gig with a pair of Shuttles. They travel in padded Tukis and look as new as the day they were made.
 
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I own both the 210 and 210 cabs. I will admit the cabs are a little more fragile than I would like. My biggest complaint has been the corners and the feet on the bottom. Broken corners and missing feet. No real cab problems otherwise. I have covers for both and I've been gigging them for over 2 years without a problem. That being said, I am careful when I load them in and out.

The 210 is a little tighter sounding to me than the 212. I really like 12s, and it was one of the reasons I got the 212. The 210 just seems to work better for me in most situations and seems to go out for more gigs of the two cabs.
 
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I need to do some more investigating since never having seen one in person. Looking at the photo from the used cab at GC, is the black carbon just a skin that's applied over NF panels? It looks like it's peeling off. If that's the case, maybe the NF is the way to go. I'm all about 2 x 12s. Can anyone compare the difference between the rear ported slim and front ported non slim. Should I carry these kinds of questions to a GR Club thread if there is one..... is there one?
 
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Relsom said:
I need to do some more investigating since never having seen one in person. Looking at the photo from the used cab at GC, is the black carbon just a skin that's applied over NF panels? It looks like it's peeling off. If that's the case, maybe the NF is the way to go. I'm all about 2 x 12s. Can anyone compare the difference between the rear ported slim and front ported non slim. Should I carry these kinds of questions to a GR Club thread if there is one..... is there one?
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I tested mine side-by-side before I sold off the original AT212 and I could not tell a big difference between the two. No scientific measurement, of course, just plugged in my head and swapped between the cabinets. I had a listen while playing and they were pretty similar. I opted for the slim just for the obvious reasons of size and weight.
 
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Pickebass said:
I own both the 210 and 210 cabs. I will admit the cabs are a little more fragile than I would like. My biggest complaint has been the corners and the feet on the bottom. Broken corners and missing feet. No real cab problems otherwise. I have covers for both and I've been gigging them for over 2 years without a problem. That being said, I am careful when I load them in and out.

The 210 is a little tighter sounding to me than the 212. I really like 12s, and it was one of the reasons I got the 212. The 210 just seems to work better for me in most situations and seems to go out for more gigs of the two cabs.
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Now you have me wondering about the 210 darn it! I haven't played a gig in the last 10 years without my Shuttle stack consisting of 2 112 Shuttle cabs. I'd be afraid to buy the 210 and realize that it falls short compared to the 212 ......aaaaarrrrhhh!

And what's with the discrepancy between what GR publishes for weight and dimensions and what the dealers publish? Is there new and improved vs old and less than worthy? I'm actually looking at the AT 212 Slim 800 ACT powered cab when I refer to this.
 
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Jason, In the end I opted for a new AT Cube 800 combo. Pulled the trigger today. I never need any more than my Shuttle 6.2-112T at rehearsals, and if the Cube 800 combo exceeds the Shuttles performance by much I may not even really need an extension cab at gigs, though I'll probably start looking for an AT 112+ to be on the safe side. I had a killer deal in the works for a used 212 Slim ACT, but I think the versatility of the modular approach suited me better. I may live to regret not following through on that ACT cab, but I'd like to be able to hook up a backup amp if trouble arises, and the ACT doesn't allow for that. Total weight difference between the 212 Slim ACT and the Cube stack is 7lbs., the ACT being a lighter, one box move, that probably has more punch than the Cube stack, but overkill in many of my gig settings. At least the combined weight of the Cube stack is 35lb. vs 61lb. for my Shuttle Stack with 2 x 112 cabs.

To put all of these nit-picky weight figures in context for my situation, End Stage COPD makes every ounce of exertion quite noticable when it comes to the chinese fire drill (no offense to asians intended ) that occurs when stage managers demand fast act changeover or less so during normal load in/out. I hope to keep moving my own gear as long as possible. When that ceases to happen, then I'm done. I can sense the vultures circling overhead as I type.
 
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#53
Johno Dunn said:
I know this is a little OT, but does anyone know of any existing IR's for the GR cabs available online for purchase? I'd love to throw one on my Element!
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OT, IR, ....Element? I know I'm old but the lingo doesn't compute.. Off Topic? Do I get credit for 1 out of 3?
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#54
Relsom said:
OT, IR, ....Element? I know I'm old but the lingo doesn't compute.. Off Topic? Do I get credit for 1 out of 3?
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Not sure if you're kidding, or not, but yes, one out of three. IR stands for Impulse Response. An IR is a digital snapshot of how a specific speaker and cabinet setup sounds when a short, broad-spectrum signal is sent through it.
An Element is a headphone/ DI pedal from DarkGlass electronics, that IR's can be loaded on to, and used for the headphone or DI out.
Really didn't think I'd need to explain that here, but happy to just the same.
Johno!
 
#55
Johno Dunn said:
Not sure if you're kidding, or not, but yes, one out of three. IR stands for Impulse Response. An IR is a digital snapshot of how a specific speaker and cabinet setup sounds when a short, broad-spectrum signal is sent through it.
An Element is a headphone/ DI pedal from DarkGlass electronics, that IR's can be loaded on to, and used for the headphone or DI out.
Really didn't think I'd need to explain that here, but happy to just the same.
Johno!
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I actually didn't know any of that. The OT was a lucky guess. Thanks for the explanation. I'll have to go to an Element discussion to see how and for what purpose this IR is loaded into it. Honestly....thanks!
 
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Relsom said:
I actually didn't know any of that. The OT was a lucky guess. Thanks for the explanation. I'll have to go to an Element discussion to see how and for what purpose this IR is loaded into it. Honestly....thanks!
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It's so your DI out, sounds more like a miced cab. It does the same for the sound in you headphones.
Here's the Element,
The Darkglass Element Cabsim Headphone Amp has a cabinet simulation toggle that can be turned on or off on the Direct Output. This switch bypasses all digital circuits to allow for a zero-latency signal. It also has a touch-sensitive slider that sets the blend between the main input and the backing track Bluetooth/Aux in for the headphone out mix. The amp also has two touch-sensitive volume control sliders, one for each headphone output.

Hope that helps.
Johno!
 
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