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Double Bass Anyone better secured a Krivo pickup?

#22
Important Notes about the "Velcro" included with Krivo Pickups

  1. It's not Velcro - it's 3M Dual-Lock tape.
  2. Recently, Jason at Krivo got a new supply of the Dual Lock for his new pickups. He was (at the time) unaware of the fact that it comes in several different "Grades" and he made quite a few of the new 2016 models with a lower-grip version of the tape. I'd venture to guess that if your pickup separates easily (not the glue letting go, but rather the two pieces of dual-lock separating) then you have one with the lighter-duty Dual Lock. He (and we) would have pro-actively replaced it, but we didn't know who had which version. Contact Jason at [email protected] and he'll send you some of the "good stuff" which should solve your mounting issues. The right Dual Lock is so grippy that you can't release the pickup without using a butterknife to push between the pieces to separate them.
 
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#23
I've been using the Dual Loc tape for years, the super hight grade heavy duty stuff. It's great for most applications, like mounting gear and power strips in rack cases, ect. So I know what it is. With the 2016 Krivo, it didn't work so well for me. For messing around in a club, no big deal. For other kinds of situations, I found it a PITA.
 
#24
Mark Gollihur said:
Important Notes about the "Velcro" included with Krivo Pickups

  1. It's not Velcro - it's 3M Dual-Lock tape.
  2. Recently, Jason at Krivo got a new supply of the Dual Lock for his new pickups. He was (at the time) unaware of the fact that it comes in several different "Grades" and he made quite a few of the new 2016 models with a lower-grip version of the tape. I'd venture to guess that if your pickup separates easily (not the glue letting go, but rather the two pieces of dual-lock separating) then you have one with the lighter-duty Dual Lock. He (and we) would have pro-actively replaced it, but we didn't know who had which version. Contact Jason at [email protected] and he'll send you some of the "good stuff" which should solve your mounting issues. The right Dual Lock is so grippy that you can't release the pickup without using a butterknife to push between the pieces to separate them.
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Thanks mark. I've used a lot of 3M tapes and adhesives and often found their website site very difficult to compare products.
 
#25
Dual Loc is great stuff. Keep in mind that when you remove the pickup, the Dual Loc often loses a few of it's teeth in the process. Not a problem for permanent installations, but if you plan on moving the pickup off the bass or between basses, etc, you will lose grip area over time and the pickup will be prone to shifting and wobbling. Only improvement I can think of for the Krivo is to offer as an option, a more permanent mounting solution requiring a trip to a qualified luthier. And holes in your fingerboard.
 
#26
Ok so I re did the auto tape, using every sq inch of available surface. End of fingerboard,
To pickup, block to underside of fingerboard, block to pickup. So far 3 practices and one hr long outdoor gig and it's still holding. I think the first time I was just too cautious with the tape and didn't use enough.

Jason sent me some supposedly better duo lock, but it looks identical to what I had to me. I havnt used it because so far the auto trim tape is doing the trick.
 
#27
Really wish I'd seen this thread a couple years ago and am appreciating the discussion!

Loved my Krivo sound for some songs. Nice way to avoid feedback (which never happens at rehearsal, only at the stage) when a song calls for a distortion pedal. However, my Krivo rudely popped off during two separate gigs while doghouse slapping. I was quick and everyone was well beered up by then but still...Grrrr. Dust bin.

But, new band, new material. Thought I'd try attaching the Krivo to my Azola Ampeg Baby Bass since I don't really slap in the outfit I'd be using it for. Love the Baby but a little more versatility would be nice, enter the Krivo again. I've talked with Jason before and found him very responsive.

BTW, 3m automotive double sided is a great idea (I need to buy some today for a car I just painted). But I'll see if Jason will send some pieces first : )
 
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#28
Well, Viktor Krauss uses the Biesle Magnetic...he just made the commitment to a permanent mount, and I think that is really the way to go. The Biesele is much more expensive of course...but after trying 2016 Krivo and having the same problems with the mounting as the previous model....I sold it. No amount of $$ is worth risking a performance being messed up by a pu falling off or sounding weird because it shifted even couple of mm..imagine if Krauss had his pickup fall off. NOT!
 
#31
It's been Dual-Lock as long as we've carried the Krivo, which is several years now. I'm not even sure whether it was ever "Velcro" - though many people call the dual-lock "velcro" since it seems like a similar product.

Folks who are having trouble with it - are you having problems with the dual-lock separating, or with the glue letting go?

If it's the dual lock letting go - note that there was a time that Jason did not know that there are several different "grip strengths" of the Dual Lock, and supplied some pickups with a lower-grade of grip; swapping out to the stronger stuff should fix the issue.

If it's the glue letting go - it's very important to clean the bottom of the fingerboard before application, and I strongly recommend sticking the dual-lock on, then letting it set for several hours before putting the pickup on. This makes for a much more secure bond. I've never had a problem with the Krivo falling off a bass when mounted in this way.
 
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wathaet said:
I just got one directly from Krivo this week. The dual lock it shipped with does not need a butterknife. Just a fairly gentle pull and it is off.
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Then something is wrong.

Take a look at this video, which I just shot 5 minutes ago, of a Krivo that I installed on a bass here at the shop a couple of weeks ago.



If yours is coming off easily, either:
  1. It's the lighter-grip grade of Dual Lock that was included with your pickup
  2. The two mating pieces of Dual Lock are of two different grades, and not meshing properly
Either way, I'd contact Jason for advice.
 
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#36
Whit Townsend said:
I love this pickup for loud blues and rockabilly, but I sometimes get overly rambunctious and knock it loose.
The super dupery stick lock stuff. is tough, but it ain't tough enough to keep this idiot from jarring it loose or accidentally knocking it off.

I think first I'm gonna get some more of the sticky lock and try going underneath the pickup and to the sides of the fingerboard. If that don't work, I may have to engineer some kind of cradle from sheet metal or wood and actually screw that to the fingerboard, sorta like a Shaller mounts.

Has anyone else had this problem?
Any better ideas?
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#37
I do not own a Krivo, so disgard reply if you will, but I have found that a high density foam wedge cut to fit proper work wonders. I have only used this set up on personally made pickups. Being mag the tone of you instruments is irrelevant. Plus a little pressure n the top could reduce any resonate vibes or creaking if pressent. IMG_20180410_133951_575.jpg IMG_20180410_133951_577.jpgstill in "working out the kinks" phase.
 
#38
I've got the last version of the bigger Krivo, with Dual Lock, and it's so solid it's unbelievable! Anyone who has had other results must have a really thin fingerboard., or a bad batch of Dual Lock. I can't say enough good about the Krivo system!
 

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