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Anyone tried the Eminence 3010LF yet?

Arjank

Arjank

Oct 9, 2007
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#1
Just strolled around the Eminence site and noticed the 3010LF is available. I did have the deltalite 2510 II some years ago and dropped it in the garbage bin after I purchased the Oberton 10B200 (what a difference!). On paper though, the 3010LF should be able to shove a bit more air then the Oberton, it should provide a 2-3dB increase in maximum spl (in the lows), doesn't sound like much but it could be the last step in maximizing my 210.
The TSP of the 3010LF are also a match for the cabinet I made for my 210.
So, any tried it yet?

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#6
Wow, not what I was expecting at all. Spl is already pretty low to begin with, then takes a dip down to about 90db around 400-500hz. Sort of does what a bp102 does.

Xmax is nice. Thermal handling and xlim are up there far enough you could abuse the hell out of the thing, but would have to to get any output. Seems it might take a substantial size box to reach deep, but, I'll figure that out later.

May work out alright in something like Arjank's box where it gets passed off at 400 anyway. Any higher and you lose a good bit of output where you need it.
 
#9
I've looked into this driver and have been talking to Eminence since the early conception of the 3010 series and for our goals, I just don't see much of a price/performance benefit of this driver compare to the 3012 series. In these days of high neo prices, I think the 3012's just offer more bang for the buck. Yes, you could pull off a great 410 cab with these, but it would make one expensive cab. There was always talk of a 3010HO as well.
 
#10
R Baer said:
I've looked into this driver and have been talking to Eminence since the early conception of the 3010 series and for our goals, I just don't see much of a price/performance benefit of this driver compare to the 3012 series. In these days of high neo prices, I think the 3012's just offer more bang for the buck. Yes, you could pull off a great 410 cab with these, but it would make one expensive cab. There was always talk of a 3010HO as well.
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I think Dave's take on it was similar to yours...but I also think he's realized that there is a market for lower volume, small/light cabs for folks. I wouldn't mind one for home use.
 
#11
R Baer said:
I've looked into this driver and have been talking to Eminence since the early conception of the 3010 series and for our goals, I just don't see much of a price/performance benefit of this driver compare to the 3012 series. In these days of high neo prices, I think the 3012's just offer more bang for the buck. Yes, you could pull off a great 410 cab with these, but it would make one expensive cab. There was always talk of a 3010HO as well.
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+1

The 3010LF is really only going to appeal to people wanting a very specific cab, and dont care about the price point. The 3015lf costs the same as the 30112lf, if not less. If the 10 is anywhere near that cost, there are more economic options.
 
#12
CL400Peavey said:
+1

The 3010LF is really only going to appeal to people wanting a very specific cab, and dont care about the price point. The 3015lf costs the same as the 30112lf, if not less. If the 10 is anywhere near that cost, there are more economic options.
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The reason I used two 10's instead of one 15 is because when wired in parallel you get 4ohms and it just happens to be that most amps give allmost twice the power at 4ohms. The Bugera I use only delivers 225watts at 8ohms, at 4ohms it's 375watts. Even these 375watts can not push the Oberton 10B200's to their limits.

So, when I would switch to these 3010LF's I also need a new amp that can at least pump out 600watts to make benefit of the increased headroom.

Maybe I just stick to the Oberton's, they were allready a big improvement over all other 10's I ever used.
 
#14
will33 said:
Wow, not what I was expecting at all. Spl is already pretty low to begin with, then takes a dip down to about 90db around 400-500hz. Sort of does what a bp102 does.

Xmax is nice. Thermal handling and xlim are up there far enough you could abuse the hell out of the thing, but would have to to get any output. Seems it might take a substantial size box to reach deep, but, I'll figure that out later.

May work out alright in something like Arjank's box where it gets passed off at 400 anyway. Any higher and you lose a good bit of output where you need it.
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A 10 with such a low fs and high Mms can not have a high sensitivity. It's more like a CarSub/PAwoofer hybrid. This driver should indeed not be used over 400hz, it has a destructive resonance at 500hz.
 
#15
Just simulated the 3010LF vs 10B200 in a 32liter box tuned at 48hz.
Like I allready thought, the 3010LF has about the same lowend response as the 10B200(the 10B200 is slighty more efficient). The max spl is around 3dB higher between 50 and 120hz (which is due to the higher xmax, 5,75mm vs 8,50mm).
So, will I gain much hmmmm, no. The 3dB isn't worth it (especially if I do not buy a power(full)amp to drive them).
 

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