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Anyone using Carvin powered PM10's for monitors?

Stumbled across these the other day, and I am in need of new monitors, I like the package deal, but concerned about running keys through them without a sub, keys and vocals are the only thing we got going through the system right now. Will they hold up on the low end of the keyboard?


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Wow, good price! I thought my Peavey monitors at $220 each where cheap!

Since a keyboard can go lower than a bass guitar, the low end on a keyboard will never work right in a monitor unless it is very high end. If the keyboard player stays above the bass, then you should be fine.
 
If the only thing in the P/A are vocals and keys why not pick up a decent rig for the keys and get them out of the P/A? If everyone is coming off the stand then thats the way you should work it. Why have one instrument in front of the backline, that makes no sence, if one instrument needs a little boost from the mains I can understand that. Theres inexpensive decent amps out there for keys!! I think those kb 300 peaveys are decent and a 15" with a good horn can cover it fairly well. I'm not much on peavey gear but I know that little rig works nicely.
The first thing that goes into your front house is always your rythmn section;drums-kick/snare/HH. /Bass DI or Mic/ then whatever is your main rythmn piece guitar/piano?
Thats how you start building your sound, and yes you do need subs underneath to be able to add strength to your sound production. Remember that your P/A is for "reinforcement" that means your backline sound is what you like and need to be able to simply move it forward to your mains. If the drummers drums sound like crap without micing them there gonna sound like crap miced too!!! Yes an EQ can help but you always start with quality and move that sound up and into your mains.
I used a complete Carvin system from 2001 thru 2008. Their 12 ch. powered mixer to run the tops and 2 moniters, and a 2,500 power amp for the 2/18s it worked very nicely. The cabinets were the PM 15 on top and their upper line 18s (can't think what the model was) underneath. The subs were decent but weren't the numbers they advertize as far as low end but they all lie about that. good luck, if you want a "balanced" sound you can't have one piece in the front and everyone else in the backline, if you sound is soft and your 15s are close to the backline you can do it like that but if your set up is traditional your balance is physically off. The piano will be 10 to 15 feet in front of everything else. Doc
 
Thanks for the reply, and I do understand your reasoning, but the keyboard player doesn't want to spring for his own amp, and we are a long way from running everyone through the PA.

Then don't worry about the keys ;) Seriously, if he doesn't want to buy an amp, he puts up with what he gets. Get the monitors (maybe think about springing for 12s), roll off the bass a bit if you are worried about the monitors, and be done.
 
Did you notice they don't have XLR inputs?
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- Suspension/Mounting: 1-3/8-inch pole mount cup with clamp and 4 fly Points
- Transport: 1 side handles
- Grill: Black steel
- Connectors: Two XLRs (one Male, one Female), Two 1/4 TRS phone jacks, Two RCA jacks
- AC Power Requirement: 90-250VAC 50-60Hz
- Dimensions: 13" wide x 11" deep x 21.5" high
- Weight: 26 lbs
 
He doesn't want to "spring" for an amp? HA! I'd spring his ass on out of there, any musician you work with who doesn't have working gear is a liability. You can find a decent used amp from 100.00 to 300.00 if your keys man can't handle that what happens when repairs are needed on his gear? You'll learn that musicians who don't invest in their gear or don't have what they need to be an "equal" contributing member will not be worth the trouble they'll cause!! If he doesn't understand the reasoning for him to use a backline amp as far as your front sound then hes not interested in how the band sounds hes just interested in himself. Now all keys will sound better out of a system then a small combo, and you can lightly put him in the syatem but his "main" projection should come from the same Area as the rest of the instruments. Its common sense and the band comes perfore an individual at all times. Good luck with the primadonna, sounds like you'll need it. Doc