Anyone using Senn EW 300 G3 IEM's ?

[Geri O]

Unfortunately, I've never tried my IEMs that way.

What I have done is to use my practice mixer when there was only one or two monitor mixes for everyone. I'll take the mix (which has even been the complete house mix before. Not ideal, but it certainly worked and was better than nothing) into one channel of my little mixer and my bass (and vocal, too, if I'm singing) into the other channels. I have a little Alto 4-channel mixer that was, what, $60? And I can send all of that stereo to my IEMs. I pan everything straight up, but it's still very effective.

It's a little more money to spend but since you are using the EW300, I think you'll be happier and have more flexibility for your, err, mix.

 

[s0c9]

Hoping you guys can help me out...

Recently had an opportunity to pick up one of these units. This was intended to be an upgrade from the used PSM200 I've been using for the last 2 years or so. I was OK with the PSM200, but didn't think the sound quality was all the great. Things certainly sound better at church through our system there (I don't know any details about it).

One of the things I'm struggling with is philosophy for this unit. For the PSM200, I plugged my bass (passing thru my SansAmp) into one channel and a monitor mix into the other. Each channel had a gain knob, so it was easy to get up and going. My ears are Alclair Tour Customs...

I think I'm trying to do the same thing with the Sennheiser, but there's only one sensitivity (gain,yes?) "knob". I'm still sending bass to one channel and a monitor mix to the other. I'm pretty sure I'm in "focus" mode (what ever that means).

Set up this way, I can't get a clean signal from my bass. I keep knocking down the sensitivity, but I just can't seem to get it right. Very frustrating. Am I trying to do something unintended for this unit? I've never had a stereo mix with the PSM200 or the Sennheiser, as I don't usually get two monitor sends.

Reading back through I guess this sounds confusing, but I guess I'm looking for your experience with just bass in one channel and a mono monitor in the other...

Is the monitor mix yours, or shared?? If yours, just add your bass into the mix... and drop the SansAmp feed.

I don't run mine like yours.. I'm taking a dedicated monitor mix and adjusting my levels to blend what I want to hear. I've never been comfortable with the "more me" in one side..and prefer to have my bass/vox blended so I can be more assertive.
Versus being loud in my IEM mix and more timid with vocals/bass.

Focus mode is dual mono... the manual states that you can use the receiver buttons to blend it. If your bass signal is not clean, then I would guess that the output from the SansAmp is too hot.. not sure if you can adjust that level.. but I'd start there. The G3 is awesome tho'...

 

[musicman7722]

2-3 years with mine.

 

[TedH]

Thread revival notice!

Got my EW300 G3 IEM today and got it to pair up fine and put my Y-splitter on both inputs and everything sounded pretty clear. I have a a bit of a hiss/static and the manual was not a terrible amount of help. My questions are about the squelch settings that is supposed to remove the hiss. I had the input gains so that the R/L sensors were about 2/3 of the way up, so the signal seemed strong enough, and I moved the squelch up from 6db up to the high-end of 26db and nothing changed on the hiss. Any ideas?

And lastly, the limiter came set on -6db; is that sufficient or should I make that -12db (or whatever the next setting is)? All assistance appreciated.

 

[s0c9]

I don't recall exactly what mine are - and the xmitter is 60 miles away. But I recall that the default input gain [sensitivity] level is -0dB - which gives you a LOT of hiss with no signal being passed, probably due to the high noise floor. I think I cut mine back to -24dB and bumped up the squelch to 18db. The output levels from the mixer are set to 0dB (unity) on both L and R channels. Yes, I run full stereo.

Squelch on my receiver is 7dB (I have that ) and the limiter is set to -12dB

 

[TedH]

I don't recall exactly what mine are - and the xmitter is 60 miles away. But I recall that the default input gain [sensitivity] level is -0dB - which gives you a LOT of hiss with no signal being passed, probably due to the high noise floor. I think I cut mine back to -24dB and bumped up the squelch to 18db. The output levels from the mixer are set to 0dB (unity) on both L and R channels. Yes, I run full stereo.

Squelch on my receiver is 7dB (I have that ) and the limiter is set to -12dB

cool; will give that a go and see what comes out of it. Thanks!

 

[Geri O]

Thread revival notice!

Got my EW300 G3 IEM today and got it to pair up fine and put my Y-splitter on both inputs and everything sounded pretty clear. I have a a bit of a hiss/static and the manual was not a terrible amount of help. My questions are about the squelch settings that is supposed to remove the hiss. I had the input gains so that the R/L sensors were about 2/3 of the way up, so the signal seemed strong enough, and I moved the squelch up from 6db up to the high-end of 26db and nothing changed on the hiss. Any ideas?

And lastly, the limiter came set on -6db; is that sufficient or should I make that -12db (or whatever the next setting is)? All assistance appreciated.

Note that the squelch control is not designed to actually control the amount of hiss you are experiencing, it's a control designed to mute the output of the receiver when it sees RF signal less than a determined level. It stops the receiver from outputting extraneous noises (terrible jet-plane-type noises and all when there's no signal from the transmitter.

 

[musicman7722]

2 more years since my last post, trouble free in stereo

 

[FuturePrimitive]

I don't recall exactly what mine are - and the xmitter is 60 miles away. But I recall that the default input gain [sensitivity] level is -0dB - which gives you a LOT of hiss with no signal being passed, probably due to the high noise floor. I think I cut mine back to -24dB and bumped up the squelch to 18db. The output levels from the mixer are set to 0dB (unity) on both L and R channels. Yes, I run full stereo.

Squelch on my receiver is 7dB (I have that ) and the limiter is set to -12dB

I recently picked up a G3 as well and have significant hiss, I will give these setings a try. I haven't messed around with the settings too much, the sound quality while playing is outstanding.

 

[TedH]

Note that the squelch control is not designed to actually control the amount of hiss you are experiencing, it's a control designed to mute the output of the receiver when it sees RF signal less than a determined level. It stops the receiver from outputting extraneous noises (terrible jet-plane-type noises and all when there's no signal from the transmitter.

Part of me wonders if I will hear it in a gig situation with live Nic's and chatter. It isn't bad, and I was by myself in my basement, so it was vewy, vewy quiet [said in an Elmer Fudd voice].

 

[Geri O]

Part of me wonders if I will hear it in a gig situation with live Nic's and chatter. It isn't bad, and I was by myself in my basement, so it was vewy, vewy quiet [said in an Elmer Fudd voice].

Good point, no doubt.

This is all in the realm of good gain structure that's part of general audio interfacing. Some time spent with adjusting the EW300's sensitivity and the output of your mixer isn't wasted. However, the gain structure of your mixer is important, too. It's possible that this could be part of the noise you are experiencing.

Having said all this, my rig is a little noisy, but with everything going, I never notice it. One of these days, I may get around to spending that time on it...