are copies being frown upon?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by wooheehaa, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. wooheehaa


    Jul 14, 2013
    not to be confused with counterfeits which carry the original brand name and logo, im refering to copies with slightly difference in design. are they being frown upon here?

    im in korea holidaying with my wife now (yup, i know, korea and their hyped dramas now) and good lord the amount of copies they have are insane. some of spalted and other exotic wood warwick copies look nothing short of amazing. good amount of hofner copies and ric copies as well. granted, i have yet to try them. doesnt seem to be very cheap, conversion works out close to 800 to a grand depending on models

    what do ya think? if i purchase anyone of these, am i supporting piracy and being out down in the hall of shame? im really irking, i only have 3 days left in my tour and after that i had 2 days of free and easy
  2. wooheehaa


    Jul 14, 2013
    just few things to add, im right now in busan and it appears that they are alot of cool little musical instrument shops, or your mom and pop instrument stores. a very refreshing experience and various of unheard string brands out there as well. never expected this in my trip!

    **** im totally stooked
  3. I wouldn't frown on copies, I would just wonder about why spend 800-1k on a copy of a bass that can be found used for that much/slightly more than that? Or maybe even new. If the quality, sound and feel is better than the basses that they are trying to copy, then by all means grab one as that is a good deal! But if they copies that aren't as good the original instrument, I wouldn't buy them.
  4. john_g

    john_g Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2007
    Yes, no one should ever buy a Sadowsky or any other P / J bass unless its a Fender! And dear God, dont get me started on Rickenfakers!
  5. wooheehaa


    Jul 14, 2013
    yea, they seem to retail fairly high, i would probably had to think twice before laying out the bucks. at the same time i dont think i could get a used 4003 or stage 1 anywhere near the region of a grand.

    will be crossing my finger hard entering these disneylands:hyper:
  6. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Inactive

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Man, if you play a bass and love it, and you buy it with your money, don't worry about what I or anyone else thinks about it. Get it a rock the crap out of it.
  7. The other thing to keep in mind is resale. The fact is, like them or not, Fender, Warwick, Ric, etc...are a known quantity that hold their value. Some unknown Korean brand might even be better quality wise, but what will it's value be back in the US if your tastes change down the road? For 800-1k you can get a minty used Fender USA P or J that you could resell for about the same price down the road if you want something else. Drop 1k on and unknown brand and what can you sell it for?

    Well a Sadowsky is much different than a random Korean knock off. Sadowsky has brand recognition and holds its value. If you plan to keep it forever, by all means if you like how it plays buy a Korean unknown brand Ric copy for 1k and live the dream. I'm just saying if you decide to get rid of it, good luck getting someone to give you even half what you paid.
  8. You could probably do very well if you haggle... Start at 50% and see what happens. If they really look that good and feel that good it's totally worth it.
  9. john_g

    john_g Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2007
    Yeah, Im just messing around :D :bassist:
  10. wcoffey81


    Feb 3, 2012
    S/E Michigan
    read every post about squier or sx basses and then decide the forums general attitude toward copies.
  11. So what kind of pickups/electronics do they have? Personaly I don't think $800/$1000 sounds all that great of a deal for copies.

    I bet it would be fun to windowshop though.
  12. Clark Dark

    Clark Dark

    Mar 3, 2005
    I would look for those basses that HJ Freaks and those other Korean bassists use. Sorry I don't have any name brands to give you but instead of a "feit" or copy get something original.
  13. Shakin-Slim


    Jul 23, 2009
    Tokyo, Japan
    I love many of the copies that come from Asia. They just seem a little more interesting to me, especially when they have some sort of design quirk. My '76 Ibanez P bass is as good as any other P I've played.
  14. wooheehaa


    Jul 14, 2013
    hey guys, thanks for the feedback. im currently in the holiday mood and alot of sense arent up there. i had read through the thread and alot points make alot of sense, from the resale value, to the high prices etc etc

    i will give all these thoughts a serious consider. if anything, i should be free on monday and tuesday to have a proper look around. will keep this updated! cheers
  15. Danny31004


    Jul 16, 2013
    Norwalk, CT
    Just dropping by saying Hi because I'm korean! No, I don't know of any copies. So don't even bother lol
    Hope you have a blast in Korea!
    Wish I could go myself... But I can't
    I want to buy a bass guitar but I can't unless you want me found dead in my house! o_o
  16. GM60466


    May 20, 2006
    I've said this 100 times, play what you like.
  17. Batmensch


    Jul 4, 2010
    Media, PA.
    Well, Squier shouldn't even enter into this discussion as they are owned by Fender and are officially authorized to make copies. OP is asking about un-authorized knock-offs.
  18. tmdazed


    Sep 29, 2012
    Why would you give 2 ***** about the opinion of a bunch of keyboard warriors, if you like it , if it plays nice , get it , who cares what the name on the headstock is
  19. Showdown


    Jan 21, 2002
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    If you are going to be in Seoul during your trip be sure to stop at the Nakwon Musical Instrument Arcade in Insadong. A mall with 200 music stores. It is very cool.




  20. Well the point a lot of us are trying to make is at the $800-1k price point the OP mentioned, that is not all that awesome of a price for a knock-off, in particular if you don't keep it for life, as is common with most bassists. If a jazz knockoff sounds and plays great and is $200, sure. But if it's a no-name and it's $800, it would be kinda silly when you can get a Mint USA Fender for that price, and it will hold it's value. If you keep it forever of course it doesn't matter.

    I agree, just don't overpay for it.