to make him happy I added 'That said, it may very well form part of a musical piece.'...
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Are DJs Musicians?
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I did notice thatto make him happy I added 'That said, it may very well form part of a musical piece.'...
We are in the hundreds, of threads and everybody has their interpretations of theory, "Rudiments", notes, composition etc etc. We are trying to explain but the interpretations are different. Nobody is going to change their thoughts on the matter. If you think a DJ is a musician Ok. I don't care. All I know their is music all around. us right now being manipulated by some form or another. I just pray that the one doing it walks me through the gates when its my time. Or do I have to explain what I mean about Gates.
I'm about to go to bed, but so much of what we think about this depends on how we define music and how we define what it is to be a musician. That will be different for every one of us. My definitions tend to be loose because of who I am and the things that have influenced the way I think about music. I think of music in terms of elements and sound, whereas others may define it as notes on a staff or positions on a fretboard and perhaps educational achievement. Who's right and who's wrong is anyone's guess if you think there's one right answer. but you're correct that no one is going to change their mind.
Goodnight!
Violent?If this is not a joke, your comment is extremely violent and unrelated to the subject. If this is a joke, it's a very bad one.
It's a joke, and, IMO, a good one.
Of course, YMMV.
Does everything have to have some sort of emoji attached in order to explain the written word?
Try this, from Jonathan Swift, for context: A Modest Proposal, by Jonathan Swift
TLDR Have you never seen a collage? You know, where an artist uses photos they didn't take to create a unique piece of art? For some DJ's it's the same thing. I think DJ has a couple of different meanings; the guy on the radio, the person at a weding, and then the musician type of DJ. Someone could actually be all of these, like I play bass, guitar, and piano (not at the same time!).
Can you do any of that on a drum?Success does not equate with musicianship. Doh!
Can you easily play Twinkle Twinkle little star, or Old MacDonalds got a farm, or the Alphabet song or even Baa Baa Black Sheep on DJ equipment? If that's a stretch, how about Donna Lee? Autumn Leaves?
The DJ's equipment is a performance tool, regardless how adept they are.
I'm sure some DJs are very talented, and may be very musical, but they're not playing chromatic musical instruments.
The vast majority of music is realised with CHROMATIC instruments, OK, y'all?
Hah, call me old fashioned
That cake must taste like what the younger generations new definition of musician is, to uphold a new dumbed down version of what your elders once held in high regard as a professional musician who dedicates their life to their musical craft, through the reading and writing of musical notation, a language that is spoken by musicians transcending beyond sampling other musicians actual work.
...Enjoy you're cake (I bet it's poopie flavored)
Ya know, it's almost starting to feel like this thread is more about whether or not a person likes EDM (or electronic music in general) that determines how they feel about the musicianship (or lack thereof) of DJs.
Which is completely different from previous generations talking trash about whatever the kids were playing.
Which is completely different from previous generations talking trash about whatever the kids were playing.
Right, and what doofuses like you don't get is that Cage explicitly stated that the sounds the audience made; coughs, sniffles, rustling, mumbles, etc. were the sounds that made up the music. Therefore, any listener who chooses to put such sounds into a rhythm in their mind creates their own music. That's what made the piece so groundbreaking, not the fact that it was 4:33 of 'silence'.
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Yes, a dj is a musician. Case in point is Val Jeanty, who for example teaches at Berklee, and is dj/turntablist in the band of Terri Lyne Carrington. I've informally played with Val, and heard her play multiple times, and she is a monster musician who holds her own in sound collage, dj-ing, turntables and percussion in any top-level musical situation.
yes, most djs play rather lame stuff. So? Not sure how that makes them different from most bass players.....
yes, most djs play rather lame stuff. So? Not sure how that makes them different from most bass players.....
Someone actually transcribed the noise(s) made by the audience at a performance of 4:33. I played that transcription once at a gallery gig. Really interesting experience, that!Right, and what doofuses like you don't get is that Cage explicitly stated that the sounds the audience made; coughs, sniffles, rustling, mumbles, etc. were the sounds that made up the music. Therefore, any listener who chooses to put such sounds into a rhythm in their mind creates their own music. That's what made the piece so groundbreaking, not the fact that it was 4:33 of 'silence'.
I still have the dots for it somewhere.
Yes I've heard of Steve Gadd and I'm pretty sure I've seen him play live once or twice over the years.
