mheintz said:
+1 on the first bass to grab...me too.
I had to widen the A string slot when I switched to the tapewounds.
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Aria Sinsonido Portable Bass
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+1 on the first bass to grab...me too.
I had to widen the A string slot when I switched to the tapewounds.
Hi another new Sinsonido player here !
I bought this for taking up to the trailer on weekends, normally I play a 62 Precision US Reissue. I ended up with a Fretless Sinsonido but wow is this an impressive instrument, great design and quality (Talk about a TIGHT neck pocket). I put some TI Jazz flats on it. I tried my normal roundwounds but they sound too metallic. As I mentioned I normally play a fretted P-Bass but this is a great playing bass, and I like the fact its a 34 inch scale bass so I can practice on this thing and not get too confused going back to my Precision !!! Im not sure what it is, but Im having trouble putting this bass down. Its great being able to play out on the front porch !
I bought this for taking up to the trailer on weekends, normally I play a 62 Precision US Reissue. I ended up with a Fretless Sinsonido but wow is this an impressive instrument, great design and quality (Talk about a TIGHT neck pocket). I put some TI Jazz flats on it. I tried my normal roundwounds but they sound too metallic. As I mentioned I normally play a fretted P-Bass but this is a great playing bass, and I like the fact its a 34 inch scale bass so I can practice on this thing and not get too confused going back to my Precision !!! Im not sure what it is, but Im having trouble putting this bass down. Its great being able to play out on the front porch !
Just thought of something....it would be great if Aria put in a 1/8" jack to plug an IPOD in so one could practice with the included (or other) headphones. What do you think?
In another thread, someone asked me:
Not to get off of the path but SBassman how do you like you bass? Would it stand being throw in the back of a hot van an forgotten or do yo think it is more fragile. I am looking for a small at work bass.
So, I thought I'd do the comments here.
As people watching this thread know
, I Love capital L
this bass. It is a blast to play, and it's a great conversation starter at gigs.
As far as throwing it in the back of a hot van:
I'm not sure Any bass can withstand that for long.
Skipping the wood for a minute, you don't want to bake the
wiring of Any bass to too high a temperature.
Back to the wood - some necks Will move when you subject them to temp changes, and the Sinsonido is not exempt from that. After my last outdoor gig, I Did need a little truss rod turn to move the neck back.
But, bottom line - it's a great bass to tote anywhere. It's light and can go just about anywhere.
Not to get off of the path but SBassman how do you like you bass? Would it stand being throw in the back of a hot van an forgotten or do yo think it is more fragile. I am looking for a small at work bass.
So, I thought I'd do the comments here.
As people watching this thread know
, I Love capital Lthis bass. It is a blast to play, and it's a great conversation starter at gigs.
As far as throwing it in the back of a hot van:
I'm not sure Any bass can withstand that for long.
Skipping the wood for a minute, you don't want to bake the
wiring of Any bass to too high a temperature.
Back to the wood - some necks Will move when you subject them to temp changes, and the Sinsonido is not exempt from that. After my last outdoor gig, I Did need a little truss rod turn to move the neck back.
But, bottom line - it's a great bass to tote anywhere. It's light and can go just about anywhere.
It's clear there are lots of us with enthusiasm for this bass, and this thread now holds some essential technical advice too. I posted a gear review about a year ago, but some of you with more experience as bass players than me might like to add to my simple comments there. You'll also see that I tried to add a photo, but ended up by starting a second review. If someone will advise me how to add the photo to the main review I'll delete the other one.
Decided the backup isn't necessary.
My stoopidity, your gain.
Sales details here:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260554&highlight=sinsonido
My stoopidity, your gain.
Sales details here:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260554&highlight=sinsonido
This bass' primary benefeit is portability and getting "big" sound in a compact design. I removed the frame and strapped it up. Seemed to be the best feel to me. It could use a little more versatility in
shaping the sound,yes. Yet the mic gives you an amazing touch sensitive feel.
IMO this bass is appropriate for all genres but maybe not all levels of players. Beginners may have a problem adapting to the structure of the frame sitting or the small body standing. Also going headless changes some hand positioning in the lower region.
I use effects with this bass to control and capture the best sounds coming out of it. I don't usually use effects for bass.
The mic combined with some quality effects gives a stage-worthy sound and a unique presence!
Great bass,great price and makes people say,"WHAT is that?".
-Luke
shaping the sound,yes. Yet the mic gives you an amazing touch sensitive feel.
IMO this bass is appropriate for all genres but maybe not all levels of players. Beginners may have a problem adapting to the structure of the frame sitting or the small body standing. Also going headless changes some hand positioning in the lower region.
I use effects with this bass to control and capture the best sounds coming out of it. I don't usually use effects for bass.
The mic combined with some quality effects gives a stage-worthy sound and a unique presence!
Great bass,great price and makes people say,"WHAT is that?".
-Luke
guys. i just got one fretless sinsonido from my manager who bought it around 2004.
the only reason he didn't touch it for 2 years is that his intonation sucked, so he handed it over to me.
i must say the bass is awesome. didn't try it on gigs yet, but i'm very curious if it's gonna be a long-time friendship.
reading you talking about a non-adjustable brigde made me wonder...
it looks like this one actually has it... just like the upright adjustables.
hmm.
now i'm looking for some flat strings.
got any idea which ones'll work on this beauty?
thnx.
the only reason he didn't touch it for 2 years is that his intonation sucked, so he handed it over to me.
i must say the bass is awesome. didn't try it on gigs yet, but i'm very curious if it's gonna be a long-time friendship.
reading you talking about a non-adjustable brigde made me wonder...
it looks like this one actually has it... just like the upright adjustables.
hmm.
now i'm looking for some flat strings.
got any idea which ones'll work on this beauty?
thnx.
Twincy, what kind of flat strings did you get and how did they change the sound/feel?
I just ordered a fretless Sinsonido, too. I haven't really played bass for years actually, so I was going to get a fretted one, but the lure of being free from fixed pitches was too much to resist. I am sure it is going to be a huge challenge, but I will give it a shot. If it's too much, I will get a fretted.
I just ordered a fretless Sinsonido, too. I haven't really played bass for years actually, so I was going to get a fretted one, but the lure of being free from fixed pitches was too much to resist. I am sure it is going to be a huge challenge, but I will give it a shot. If it's too much, I will get a fretted.
Heh, I ended up getting SBassman's sinsonido which he advertised 3 posts above. It really is a sweet bass, but since I don't play 4 strings (not to mention parallel frets) anymore, it's up for sale (preferably in Greece, but if someone from the rest of Europe is interested I could look into shipping it). I bought this as a travel bass, to use when I'm on vacation, and, although it is incredibly light, it's still too long to get in a suitcase for example for the times when I travel abroad for a week etc. But a very nice bass and concept indeed.
low-velocipede: didn't buy any strings yet. still using the factory ones. (eek!)
when i'm back from the tour i'll get some. just don't know what will fit...
damn i love this bass! had my mp3-player with small earphones and the bass through big ones in the tour bus enjoying whatever music for 3 hours straight. it's a killer
when i'm back from the tour i'll get some. just don't know what will fit...
damn i love this bass! had my mp3-player with small earphones and the bass through big ones in the tour bus enjoying whatever music for 3 hours straight. it's a killer
I have had my Sinsonido for nearly three years and it is continually falling apart. The cheap output jack had to be replaced when I bought it, I fixed it once after, and now it is acting up again. I had to do some surgery on the bridge and saddle seat to get the thing to sit well, and I inserted different screws to get usable height adjustment. The volume pot shaft broke off and one of the 9v leads broke. I have managed to fix nearly everything myself, but just today two of the tuning peg shafts broke, leaving me one-half useless shafts. I ordered a new set off eBay, but this bass is beginning to work its way down my list. I emailed the U.S. distributors in TN and have heard nothing back.
That said, it is a very confortable and versatile bass. The tone is surprisingwhen it works. The action is great and it is nicely portable, something I used to great advantage.
But it is a cheaply made instrument and the poor quality shows. Too bad.
That said, it is a very confortable and versatile bass. The tone is surprisingwhen it works. The action is great and it is nicely portable, something I used to great advantage.
But it is a cheaply made instrument and the poor quality shows. Too bad.
I've had mine about the same period. I've carried it to the Scottish mountains, through Europe by road and a couple of times on a sailing yacht in Greece. I have to admit I haven't used it for hand-to-hand fighting in a dodgy bar-gig. But I've had no mechanical problem with it.
I'm sure there was a post, probably in this thread, from someone who had immediate replacement of a bridge from Aria: sounds as if you've had terrible luck with yours.
I'm sure there was a post, probably in this thread, from someone who had immediate replacement of a bridge from Aria: sounds as if you've had terrible luck with yours.
Wow, this is a very informative thread!
What is the overall length of the Sinsonido fretless bass? It looks like from Osprey's photo that it's quite long and its portability for travel purposes comes mostly from the lack of body width.
A second question: If one were standing or seated with only the bottom body frame attached, would that prevent the thing from tilting (rotating) downward?
If someone would be so kind as to measure the length and post it, I would be grateful (an earlier post mentioned 42", but I just want to be sure).
Thanks.
Michael
What is the overall length of the Sinsonido fretless bass? It looks like from Osprey's photo that it's quite long and its portability for travel purposes comes mostly from the lack of body width.
A second question: If one were standing or seated with only the bottom body frame attached, would that prevent the thing from tilting (rotating) downward?
If someone would be so kind as to measure the length and post it, I would be grateful (an earlier post mentioned 42", but I just want to be sure).
Thanks.
Michael
The length is 41 inches. Since the bass is headless, imagine 34 inches from nut to bridge, plus about an inch beyond the nut and, below the bridge a structure a bit like the head of an acoustic 4-string.
Your second question: I think you're talking about tilting forwards, not neck-dive? It may depend on your anatomy! But also the length of your strap. Sitting down I find I have no tilting problem if I use no frames, but use a strap. Standing, I find the top frame is the one which keeps the tilt at bay, (my fore-arm rests against it which also steadies the very light instrument) but others may wear the bass at a different height or over a differently-shaped belly.
Your second question: I think you're talking about tilting forwards, not neck-dive? It may depend on your anatomy! But also the length of your strap. Sitting down I find I have no tilting problem if I use no frames, but use a strap. Standing, I find the top frame is the one which keeps the tilt at bay, (my fore-arm rests against it which also steadies the very light instrument) but others may wear the bass at a different height or over a differently-shaped belly.
Thanks, Osprey.
Yes, I meant "rolling forward" and not neck dive (I had seen a post of yours on a different thread that brought the issue to my attention). I'm wondering if the bottom frame might hit the thigh/waist/belly area and keep it from rolling that way. Reason I ask: It seems to me that the most uncomfortable thing about long gigs is the way that the wrist of the hand striking the string (the right hand in my case) tends to have to bend 90 degrees on traditional basses because the body is "in the way". It intuitively seems that it would be nice to leave the top body frame pieces off so that the wrist is mostly "in line" with the arm without being bent, but this is a minor issue.
As for length, I'm wondering if the Rob Allen Mouse 30, which is the size of a Telecaster guitar and fits in a guitar gig bag, might be an easier airline travel instrument. Its total length is quoted as 38". Of course, there is a huge price difference between the Sinsonido and the Mouse.
Thanks for the post.
Michael
Yes, I meant "rolling forward" and not neck dive (I had seen a post of yours on a different thread that brought the issue to my attention). I'm wondering if the bottom frame might hit the thigh/waist/belly area and keep it from rolling that way. Reason I ask: It seems to me that the most uncomfortable thing about long gigs is the way that the wrist of the hand striking the string (the right hand in my case) tends to have to bend 90 degrees on traditional basses because the body is "in the way". It intuitively seems that it would be nice to leave the top body frame pieces off so that the wrist is mostly "in line" with the arm without being bent, but this is a minor issue.
As for length, I'm wondering if the Rob Allen Mouse 30, which is the size of a Telecaster guitar and fits in a guitar gig bag, might be an easier airline travel instrument. Its total length is quoted as 38". Of course, there is a huge price difference between the Sinsonido and the Mouse.
Thanks for the post.
Michael
I finally got my Sinsonido back from SaintFishy's in TN. It took a bit longer than six months. 
The volume pot shaft had broken long ago and the output jack had to be re-wired two or three times, but the kicker was when two of the tuning peg shafts broke while I was... Tuning. So I sent it in.
To be fair to SaintFishy's, the folks at Aria corporate apparently are going through changes and the old Sinsonido circuit boards are no longer available. After many delays, I finally said enough, just send me a new one, so SaintFishy's sent one of the new design basses with my old fretted neckthey had only fretless Sinsonidos in stock.
You will notice the volume and tone controls are on the top now and not in a cutout. There is now a mini output jack and what appears to be an AC adapter input where the tone and volume controls once were. No one could explain what these do. No owner's manuals were available.
The bass sounds more or less the same as before. The tone control seems a bit more effective. I kinda liked the old design better, but this version will at least probably be more robust. I sure hope so. If the thing is made to deal with traveling, it ought to be built reasonably solid. Oh, the black strings are mine, they did not come with the bass.
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The volume pot shaft had broken long ago and the output jack had to be re-wired two or three times, but the kicker was when two of the tuning peg shafts broke while I was... Tuning. So I sent it in. To be fair to SaintFishy's, the folks at Aria corporate apparently are going through changes and the old Sinsonido circuit boards are no longer available. After many delays, I finally said enough, just send me a new one, so SaintFishy's sent one of the new design basses with my old fretted neckthey had only fretless Sinsonidos in stock.
You will notice the volume and tone controls are on the top now and not in a cutout. There is now a mini output jack and what appears to be an AC adapter input where the tone and volume controls once were. No one could explain what these do. No owner's manuals were available.
The bass sounds more or less the same as before. The tone control seems a bit more effective. I kinda liked the old design better, but this version will at least probably be more robust. I sure hope so. If the thing is made to deal with traveling, it ought to be built reasonably solid. Oh, the black strings are mine, they did not come with the bass.
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