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Atlanta is Closed

Some ice and an incline of any sort will stop trucks, buses, etc. and you can't move through the tens or hundreds of stopped vehicles in front of you to get to an exit.

This same thing happened in Raleigh 7 or 8 winters ago.

Roads started freezing and snow started falling about 2pm. A couple cars and trucks here and there spinning out and blocking the interstates and the whole metro area came to a stop.

People were on the beltline for 6+ hours, kids stayed overnight at their schools. It took me 4 hours to get back to Durham from Raleigh, and I was well ahead of the real mess.
 
Not all of Georgia was that bad. From what I hear Gwinnett County was able to clear their roads in a timely manner. They have the luxury of not having any larger cities in their county, so the county vehicles salted and brined all the major streets without any major problems.

I on the other hand had to live at the north side of Marietta. I was working at CNN Center yesterday and left at 1:15. It took me over an hour to get onto the connector (I-75/ 85 through the Atlanta). When I got to the Brookwood split, when the two interstates split, I must have averaged less than 1 mile an hour.

I helped two stranded motorists. A guy that needed a jump start and another who was changing a tire.

I didn't get home until 8:30, which is better than many. But it was a 7 hour 15 minute expedition that only went 20 miles!
 
If you don't live in Atlanta it is hard to understand how a few inches of snow can cause all of this chaos. Atlanta is a major transportation hub for the entire east coast.

The Atlanta Metro area is about 6 million people. The temperature can change drastically in a short time during winter months. Imagine 58 degrees and sunny one day and 17 degrees two days later. Add heavy traffic, precipitation and hills, and you get a recipe for disaster.

I grew up in Ohio and we walked to school in snow that was ankle deep, but the roads had salt and sand on them, and the traffic still moved.
 
If you don't live in Atlanta it is hard to understand how a few inches of snow can cause all of this chaos. Atlanta is a major transportation hub for the entire east coast.

The Atlanta Metro area is about 6 million people. The temperature can change drastically in a short time during winter months. Imagine 58 degrees and sunny one day and 17 degrees two days later. Add heavy traffic, precipitation and hills, and you get a recipe for disaster.

I grew up in Ohio and we walked to school in snow that was ankle deep, but the roads had salt and sand on them, and the traffic still moved.

Yeah, I don't think that they majority of Americans outside of the South understand just how big and busy ATL is. You haven't lived until you've driven through ATL on a regular day so I can only imagine what it must be like right now.
 
Here's a nice explanation:

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-all-altanta-is-stuck-in-traffic-2014-1

imagine this scenario: The weather service has been calling for severe snow for a few days, but the predictions only promise an inch or less. Now, it is one thing for you the commuter to scoff at the weather, but what if your municipal powers-that-be took the same attitude? No preparation, no salting or sanding before hand, and (this is the big one) no planned municipal closures.

So high noon rolls around and the snow arrives, and hey, that stuff is coming down pretty hard, like something seriously worth considering. It is at this time that the powers-that-be decide to close several offices and multiple schools.

Schools. Schools containing children whose parents haven't planned to fetch them until much later. So all of those parents now have to go rushing from wherever to their school of choice. Atlanta is a driving city, not a walking city or especially a rail or bus city, so thus commences a volley of unexpected traffic volume.

As the snow falls, several businesses catch the same idea, so they too decide to roll up the carpet and send their employees home a few hours early. This is a second unexpected volley of traffic.

Oh, and the sand trucks? They're heading out for their first run. We've about 30 or 40 such trucks to serve all of Atlanta, by the way.

Now this whole time, the snow is still falling and since the temperature has been hovering right around 27 degrees, the stuff is sticking to the streets. All of these commuters are crowding these streets, and while some are lucky to have found some roads favored by that first run of sanding, most are just plowing through and keeping the streets mostly ice-free by friction alone.

But with added volume, because the number of cars keeps increasing, these streets are getting crowded and the traffic is slowing and the snow melt that used to work so well isn't nearly so effective. Now that melted snow is refreezing under the tires of all of these stacked motorists. Those tires manage to melt a little of the top layer, but it freezes right back quickly. The result is a particularly Southern phenomena that looks and feels like cold glass.

What about the sand trucks? Well, they've made it through their first run, but now they can't so quickly get back to the warehouses to get more of that precious sand.

And all of those commuters? They're getting to know one another quite well, with run-ins and rear-endings and side-swipes that make it necessary for the police to be involved, and occasionally a fire truck, sadly an ambulance.

A few of those commuters just say "Screw it" and leave their cars where they get stuck, stomping off into the snow in hopes of stumbling home.

Did I mention the school buses that were still trying to get kids home at 10pm or later?

It is a horrible and dreadful and disastrous situation, and while it is easy to mock, please take a moment to consider just how quickly this escalated and how it could've been prevented. This is more than your typical case of "The South can't deal with a little snow."
 
Yep, we get heat waves that hot a few times a summer. We get both extremes.

lowsound

It's funny how many of my northern friends said this when they moved south and nearly didnt make it through their first summer. I assure you that you have nothing that compares to our summers. We don't have a few "heat waves" a year, its just one big heat wave we call summer. . When a heat wave hits the north and people are dying and getting sick in barely 100 weather its because they do not have enough air conditioning to cope with the heat. Exactly the same as our preparation for ice and snow.
 
While I understand that you guys are poorly equipped to deal with it, it is still funny to us northerners how little snow it takes for you southerners to shut down. It is a pretty normal day for me to see that much snow.

For reference, here is the weather forecast for the next 5 days. When you have that much wind and it is this cold, you get a lot of blowing snow, which is way worse than getting lots of snow, or ice.
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Here is the forecast for the rest of today. Pretty typical weather from November through March.
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lowsound

You riding your bike in that? Just wondering.
 
I have a friend who used to live in San Antonio TX. A number of years ago they had a snow storm similar to what just hit Atlanta.

Only snow plows in the whole city were at the airport, dedicated to airport use. Few people had chains for tires, snow blowers, snow shovels. No salt, and only a few piles of sand at the road department. No salt or other ice melt stuff at home depot type stores.

Few people with experience driving on ice, for whom 'drive slow' means driving 55 mph in the 65 mpg zone. And then there are the idiots who think 4 wheel drive will give them lots of traction on ice.

Yep. So I understand how it happens.

Heck, I currently live in south Jersey, we get at least some snow every winter, and every few years 6 to 12 inches in a storm. Not what I got used to in SD and WY, but still... People here still panic when they hear predictions of snow. I hate to drive in snow and ice conditions here because so few people have kplearned to drive in those conditions. I am more worried about someone sliding into me, or spinning out in front of me and me not being able to stop in time.

And then there are the idiots who own summer houses, especially along the shore... Far too many of them, when they close up their shore homes for the winter, never get around to turning off their water and draining the water pipes in their houses. Winters like this, lots of problems with flooding not only inside houses from burst pipes, but also big ice rinks on roads due to said flooding escaping the houses and spreading out into the streets and then freezing.

You now it has been a cold winter here when folks start considering a high temp of 35degrees F as warm... Lol
 
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Heres an idea ................stay home, stay off the freeways when they turn to ice skating rinks. OR, good people of georgia, this has been known to happen from time to time, maybe invest in a few snow removal vehicles and a little salt stockpile so you have it when you need it, I mean c'mon, its the old boy scout motto "be prepared" Im sorry but I have no sympathy for you.
 
Heres an idea ................stay home, stay off the freeways when they turn to ice skating rinks. OR, good people of georgia, this has been known to happen from time to time, maybe invest in a few snow removal vehicles and a little salt stockpile so you have it when you need it, I mean c'mon, its the old boy scout motto "be prepared" Im sorry but I have no sympathy for you.

Well, we weren't asking for your sympathy, but perhaps you could look a little past your myopic view of how things should be.