Audible Click Track?

[FenderB]

Does anyone know of an app (iPad) that will play a click track over a song in time with the song? I use Tempo SlowMo, Anytune and DAW Multitrack for playing songs I'm trying to learn, of the three DAW Multitrack does have an audible click track but I doesn't seem to match the timing of the song very well, plus you can't slow the song down. Suggestions greatly appreciated.
Jack

 

[CaseyVancouver]

You might try the 'Amazing Slow Downer' an app to slow down a piece to learn it but keeps the pitch correct.

I cannot imagine any click track to learn a recorded piece, maybe I'm not getting your question. Pro's use the click to play along during the recording, that's the use of a click.

 

[lz4005]

I cannot imagine any click track to learn a recorded piece, maybe I'm not getting your question. Pro's use the click to play along during the recording, that's the use of a click.

Yeah, retrofitting a click to a song that already has drums doesn't make a lot of sense.
A count-in can be useful if you need to hit right on the first note, but otherwise it's redundant.
Not to mention very difficult to automate. Even programs like Beat Detective (plug-in for protools) can get confused if you feed them a full mix.
There's usually just too much going on in a song for a computer to generate a 100% accurate click. Particularly if there are tempo and feel changes within the song.

My suggestion for OP: Listen to the drums. That's what they're there for.

 

[MalcolmAmos]

Yes you have hit on the problem with click tracks. You have to adjust for each song, i.e. one song may be at 60 bpm and the next at 160. There may be some new stuff out there, but, I do not know of any way beyond listening for the beat and then match what this specific song is using.

Listen for the kick drum ---- if there is no drummer I listen to the lead vocalists to get the bpm, once I have that I keep it for the rest of the band to follow. Usually a simple repetitive pattern is best.

Good luck.

 

[FenderB]

You might try the 'Amazing Slow Downer' an app to slow down a piece to learn it but keeps the pitch correct.

I cannot imagine any click track to learn a recorded piece, maybe I'm not getting your question. Pro's use the click to play along during the recording, that's the use of a click.

Tempo SloMo does a great job of slowing the song down and keeping the pitch correct, I was just wondering if there was an app out there that played a click along with a song at the tempo of the song.

 

[FenderB]

Yeah, retrofitting a click to a song that already has drums doesn't make a lot of sense.
A count-in can be useful if you need to hit right on the first note, but otherwise it's redundant.
Not to mention very difficult to automate. Even programs like Beat Detective (plug-in for protools) can get confused if you feed them a full mix.
There's usually just too much going on in a song for a computer to generate a 100% accurate click. Particularly if there are tempo and feel changes within the song.

My suggestion for OP: Listen to the drums. That's what they're there for.

On some songs the drums are hard to either hear or follow, not all songs have a distinctive kick or HH that you can follow. I use PolyNome to recreate the beats that I have trouble with but it's not the same as actually playing along to the song. I thought there might be something out there that would be able to pick up the bpm of the song an put a 4/4 click over it.

 

[lz4005]

On some songs the drums are hard to either hear or follow, not all songs have a distinctive kick or HH that you can follow.
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I thought there might be something out there that would be able to pick up the bpm of the song an put a 4/4 click over it.

Learning how to listen to drums is arguably the most important thing for a bass player to do.

4/4 clicks only work if the song is in 4 and was recorded to a click.

 

[SteveCS]

Yes you have hit on the problem with click tracks. You have to adjust for each song, i.e. one song may be at 60 bpm and the next at 160. There may be some new stuff out there, but, I do not know of any way beyond listening for the beat and then match what this specific song is using.
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Yes, or even bar by bar. We don't have a drummer (the benefits are obvious) so I use tempo detection to give me a starting point when creating our backing tracks. Some tunes that were made to a click are real easy, but some are not, and i have to go through bar by bar or section at a time matching tempo changes to create the necessary feel. This screenshot shows some of the tempo markers in my drum track for the relatively simple Fleetwood Mac's Dreams overlaid on the audio file...

Or the more interesting Piece Of My Heart...

Both of these tunes sound terrible played to a constant tempo...

 

[Whousedtoplay]

was just wondering if there was an app out there that played a click along with a song at the tempo of the song.

Not that I know.
And it would be difficult to create that kind of app because...

1. If the song was recorded without a click (constant! and close to perfection!) then, a/any new added click most probably would be OFF!!!
2. Even if the song was recorded with a click, and it still would not work because you would need to have a "mother clock" like SMPTE.
Check this web-site.
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"Audio and music happens in time. Many of your machines have an internal clock keeping track of what time it is supposed to do something. These clocks, unless made to receive code from an external clock, will be totally out of sync with other machines. That is the problem. The solution is to make all your machines share the same timebase, so if you were to ask any one machine what time it was it would say, "we are exactly at 0 hours, 1 minutes, 40 seconds, and 018 frames into the song, right, mmm, NOW!" Or in sequencer speak, we are 00:01:40:018. You've probably seen that display on your sequencer. Yes it is more than just telling you how long your song is, it is actually a representation of the timecode referencing your sequencer's internal clock. All the methods we are about to discuss, SMPTE, MTC, MIDI Clock Sync, SPP and MMC are the methods we can use to get our devices to share a single clock source...."