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Avatar B410 Neo Problem

Well it should be on it's way here, so once I get it and swap it, I'll report back here with the results.

Dave seems rather confident that this is the cause/ solution to the problems.

I put about 3 hours into the cab today at a moderately low volume. I'll also keep breaking it in and report back with any changes, if any while warming up until the crossover shows up.

I mean as some have also reported it may be resolved with further warming up.

I sincearly hope this is the root, but I didn't want to sit back and put all of my eggs in that one basket and next thing I know my return policy is outdated.

Thanks for everyone adding info and helping me out with this. I do say that Avatars customer service is top notch and Dave is a good guy to deal with.

With my other Avatars I never had to deal with them because I bought them used and have never had a proble with them. They are the older neo's.

3x Neo b410's should be a pretty killer wall of sound hehe.

Peace

-Benny
 
Turns out my problem was a badly manufactured handle. When I hit low notes it would buzz and it took me about 15 minutes to finally figure out where it was coming from. The "tube" part of the handle had come disconnected from the plate part. Removed it and smashed it with a hammer (my cure-all for eveything), screwed it back in and the buzz is gone.
 
Turns out my problem was a badly manufactured handle. When I hit low notes it would buzz and it took me about 15 minutes to finally figure out where it was coming from. The "tube" part of the handle had come disconnected from the plate part. Removed it and smashed it with a hammer (my cure-all for eveything), screwed it back in and the buzz is gone.

I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the tip. It does seem like the cross over from what Dave told me though since it's coming from the speakers. All the juice and data gets brought through the cross over so that would make sense as to why mine is doing what it's doing.

Smashing things with hammers tends to make situations work... teach that inatimate handle a lesson.

LoL

Peace

-Benny
 
I was convinced it was coming from inside the cab, on the left hand side, so I removed the handle and to peek inside and listen, and it went away. So I examined the handle. The tube part of the handle is actually inserted into the plate then "machine punched" on each end, kinda like a giant rivet. I put a big metal spike I had into the hole, whacked it a few times and voila.....I like hammers.
 
This is the second time I've delt with DHL and I can say I'm not to happy with them. The way the box looks when I get the products and what happens to them inside. Also the lack of updates and completely irrational routes are crazy. My cab went from Avatar to Washington state, then it came back east and went to Ohio, then it finally made it back west to me in Wisconsin. Arrived late and at times went 3 or more days without updating the tracking data.

Anywho, I'll call Dave and let him know what's going on.

Thanks a ton.

Peace

-Benny
Actually, the DHL location data for their account puts it in Washington, they really don't go there first. I talked with Spence about it yesterday. They're working on getting the info fixed in DHL's system. :)
 
Actually, the DHL location data for their account puts it in Washington, they really don't go there first. I talked with Spence about it yesterday. They're working on getting the info fixed in DHL's system. :)

Dave explained that to me as well, but the crazy thing is it still went about 240 miles in into Washington from it's origin. somewhere which is the opposite direction from Wisconsin . Then came back East and went about 500 miles too far east to Ohio before coming back to Wisconsin and arriving to me after the date it was supposed to be delivered.

To me that is uneconimical for one, and a waste of time.

Peace

-Benny
 
I also am waiting for the update on the fix. I've had no problems with mine at all, and from the looks of your profile, you hit these with some pretty heavy wattage. Give us your take on these cabs with hard wattage. I personally find that 500 isn't quite enogh for them. But 700 to each cab is about the right wattage to really get them to wake up. I see that you were using 900 each. That I would think, a guy would have to be quite carefull with. Give us your input on this, if you would please.
 
I also am waiting for the update on the fix. I've had no problems with mine at all, and from the looks of your profile, you hit these with some pretty heavy wattage. Give us your take on these cabs with hard wattage. I personally find that 500 isn't quite enogh for them. But 700 to each cab is about the right wattage to really get them to wake up. I see that you were using 900 each. That I would think, a guy would have to be quite carefull with. Give us your input on this, if you would please.


I have three 410 neos now. The first two I picked up used. I haven't run this new one that's having problems with the HD1800 yet. I've been running it with my vintage 200 watt Traynor head.

I've used the Traynor with the other cabs and was able to get a startling volume out of each of them even with only 200 watts. (never run both together with the Traynor though).

I don't run the power control on the HD1800 all the way up, usually between 1/2 and 3/4 which I believe with the power curve to be somewhere in the 500-700 watt range per cab or 1000 to 1400 total.

I don't push them that hard because the cabs are fairly efficient and put out some sound. Plus 810's are enough for the one band that I play in which has two guitarists pushing 120 tube watts each into half stacks.

The other band I'm in is extreamly loud and I never turn up past 3/4 power on the amp. I'm actually going to be using a different cab set up for that band as well, 2x410 and 215.

The new neo is just for sitting at home so I have something there.

Hope I explained enough.

Peace
-Benny
 
Benny:

My replacement crossover was supposed to ship this past Monday, but it's Saturday a.m. and it's still not here (I'm in Tampa)......another weekend without being able to gig with my new cabinet. Did you get yours already?? If so, did you get the entire back panel or just the guts?

Tony
 
The shipping of my Avatar was delayed as well; it took 4 days longer than they estimated and, even on the day of actual delivery, their website showed the originally scheduled day.

I talked with DHL customer support and they made it sound like their domestic service was a work in progress.......maybe they are rated higher than UPS worldwide, but still not up to par on the domestic side?

Over the years I've had consistently reliable service with UPS.....anyway that's my personal experience.
 
Benny:

My replacement crossover was supposed to ship this past Monday, but it's Saturday a.m. and it's still not here (I'm in Tampa)......another weekend without being able to gig with my new cabinet. Did you get yours already?? If so, did you get the entire back panel or just the guts?

Tony

I haven't gotten it yet, but Dave said he was sending out the entire back panel.
 
Hmm. I haven't had any problems with mine at all--they seem to be working like they are supposed to.

As to DHL--I hate them. Yeah, they are the cheapest when it comes to shipping cabs, but their delivery time sucks. My Avatar cabs ended up going to Michigan before coming here.:eyebrow:
 
I talked with DHL customer support and they made it sound like their domestic service was a work in progress.......maybe they are rated higher than UPS worldwide, but still not up to par on the domestic side?
DHL used to be Airborne Express. Airborne seemed to have their Shiite together, after the name change, they mainly focused on worldwide shipping. Their domestic service is indeed a work in progress. Shouldn't be, but it is. And when you are a small business, like Dave, the costs do add up. Best scenario that I can see would be for DHL to steal UPS's playbook and routing map!