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Back From Retirement - Advice Requested Please!

King V

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I'll try to make this as short as possible, but I wanted to include a little background to get the best advice possible.

I started playing bass at 12 yrs old (now early 40's). I spent all of my 20's and first half of my 30's doing most of the things...playing in multiple projects, touring, recording 14 albums, hitting up NAMM every year, etc. I spent a vast majority of my playing time in rock, metal, prog, with a little of hippie jam band mixed in. Ultimately however, trying to balance a fairly demanding career for my day job with music, getting burned badly by a custom "builder", plus a nasty divorce and the pandemic all ended up in me hanging things up for about 7 years. Other than picking up a bass for an hour or so every couple of weeks, I was essentially retired.

Fast forward to now. I have a new, better job that requires less of my time. I have a new partner who is amazing and incredibly supportive, and I find myself beginning to love music again although I still haven't really picked a bass back up.

Unfortunately, my partner was diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia a couple of months ago. She is currently undergoing treatment and has a very long road ahead. I also find myself continuing to work full time to support both of us while splitting primary caregiver duties with a close family member of hers.

In the midst of all this, I have discovered that picking up a bass and practicing for an hour or two every night is incredibly helpful in allowing me to de-stress and decompress. Plus it's keeping me from drinking or medicating the night away. I also have found that my tastes have changed dramatically. I have discovered a love for Jazz and have been listening to a ton on Janek Gwizdala, John Patitucci, Damian Erskine, Charles Mingus, Dennis Chambers, etc. I am decided that if I am getting back into playing, that this is the direction I would like to spend most of my time exploring. Even if I never play a gig ever again, just having something else to focus on and improve on is incredibly beneficial to my mental health. Especially right now.

Sorry for the long winded story, but long story short, I need some suggestions on the following:

1. I'd like to get some instruction in Jazz. Due to my schedule being insane at the moment, I think online instruction would be best. Any recommendations? I would consider myself starting at a beginner level.

2. In-person instruction is a possibility, but classes would need to be flexible or a private instructor that is understanding of my situation and willing to work with me. Does anyone have a recommendation in the Seattle area?

3. Any recommendations on self-teaching books or videos for Jazz bass?

4. I need to re-fresh my music theory and definitely my music reading. I haven't read sheet music since playing upright in high school orchestra. Any recommendations on books for this?

5. Need some recommendations on an electric upright. I have been looking at the NS series EUB's. Again, I haven't played upright since high school and I'd like to get back into it.

6. Finally, suggestions for a setup for silent practice would be appreciated. Something where I could jam along with music or practice to backing tracks would be essential. On the rare occasions that my partner is home from the hospital, she needs her rest and I do not want to disturb her.

I appreciate any and all advice anyone can offer. I know I'm asking for quite a bit of help here, so I am grateful for your time if you have any information to offer. Thanks!
 
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3. Any recommendations on self-teaching books or videos for Jazz bass?

4. I need to re-fresh my music theory and definitely my music reading. I haven't read sheet music since playing upright in high school orchestra. Any recommendations on books for this?
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You might take a look at "The Advancing Guitarist" book by Mick Goodrick. You would have adapt it for bass but it might give you a solid foundation and help you un- & re- learn certain things.
 
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Welcome back, and I hope that she heals up quick.

And don't hesitate to come back as often as you need to if you need to take your mind off of things; there are a lot of rabbit-holes that you can go down if you poke around with a search, and a lot of support if you need that too. :thumbsup:
 
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Welcome back, and I hope that she heals up quick.

And don't hesitate to come back as often as you need to if you need to take your mind off of things; there are a lot of rabbit-holes that you can go down if you poke around with a search, and a lot of support if you need that too. :thumbsup:

I have noticed a distinct lack of carrots in the poll options these days, which is a bit disappointing.
 
I have discovered that picking up a bass and practicing for an hour or two every night is incredibly helpful in allowing me to de-stress and decompress.

So much this. Practicing is such a terrific way to turn off everything else in the world.

Good luck, and best wishes to your partner for a full and rapid recovery.
 
Best wishes for you and your partner.

talkingbass.net is fantastic for technique and general bass playing, but he does have some jazz specific instruction too.

walkingbasslessons.com is a fave, great primer… but looks like the site is under construction? (hopefully not down for good!)

I like the vox amplug, but not sure how compatible that is with EUB… I think a USB interface would be the way to go. Love my m-audio 2 track, built like a tank.

and check out the iRealPro app for backing track and chord chart generation. I use it pretty much every day. There’s an online forum too with lots of charts available for download.

im sure you’ll get lots of good recommendations here, good luck!
 
Check out Scott’s bass lessons. Get past all the clickbait annoying stuff and check out the courses, the real meat. Mark, at Talkingbass.com also has tons of instruction. Scott’s operates on a subscription base, Talkingbass courses are a straight purchase.

For silent practice, I use this set up, the Zoom was $125 used.

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Plug in the iPad via the aux in. This is small and easy to move. There are lots of options like this, used multi fx units are plentiful.

If you don’t mind being at your desk and in front of a computer, just buy an inexpensive interface like the Scarlett, usb to the computer, and headphones. Use a DAW like GarageBand or software like Amplitube.

IrealB is a software app that has thousands of jazz charts, and provides whatever backing instruments you’d like to hear for practicing over changes.

Good luck!
 
1. NS basses are great. Literally any of them will make you smile. Whether you pick a Radius or an OMNI.

2. Get an interface to silently practice.

I'm not going to suggest anything about any of the other things, others know more than me :)

I hope your partner is able to recover. I wish you both the best, truly. I do. Much love!
 
First, I wish your partner a full recovery, minimal reaction to the RX. Please keep us posted. Please message me with her 1st name. I have basically no experience on upright. i was acquaintances with this guy: Cleveland Eaton - Wikipedia . He was great. I listened to some of your music choices. Cool, Like your classic? style of jazz. Lots of walking bass lines! Not my strong point!
I am big on smooth jazz, Boney James, 480 East, etc.
I really cant answer any of your questions but just encourage you to hang in there. Take care of yourself too.
 
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Welcome back and best wishes finding a balanced life. As far as EUBs go there are a lot of choices and the NS or Yamaha Silent Bass are definitely the way to go if you are looking for an upright playing feel. I went with the [This invalid link has been removed] as the scale, feel, size and budget are more appropriate for my situation.
 
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For quiet practice….
I play the songs or backing tracks through my iPhone speaker which naturally eliminates the bass frequency.
Then I play my bass through a small amp
(In my case a PJB Double 4). I turn up the bass volume until my bass sits in the mix and blends in with song.
The overall volume of both the bass and iPhone should be just loud enough to cancel out acoustic sound of the bass strings.
 
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Thank you everyone for the well wishes and advice. It is greatly appreciated!

I've narrowed down to the NS Designs WAV4 or the NXTa4. From what I can tell from watching and reading online reviews, the NXT4a sounds better to my ears. Just trying to decide it it's worth the extra $700.

Also considering the Boss Waza-Air For Bass. The simple setup and integration with my phone or tablet is very appealing.

Checking out Scott's Bass Lessons, as well as Damien Erskine's online courses. I just ordered a couple of Janek Gwizdala's books as well.
 

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