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Barefaced Super Twin vs Big Baby II

stelles75

stelles75

Sep 26, 2014
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I'm buying one of these suckers. I want my final cab. I need it to be able to cut through a loud rock band if we happen to not have the luxury of a PA, though.

I currently play through a Quilter BB800 and a PVH1516. This has been an excellent rig. However, I use a lot of effects and if I drive those 8s too hard, the crossover lamp lights up. It also weights close to 90 lbs with casters.

I want the Super Twin, don't I?
 
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I have both cabinets, both are excellent but for a loud rock band the SuperTwin is going to be a much better choice unless of course you get two BBIIs or a Big Twin II. If you require a tweeter then the SuperTwin is not going to work for you but I still would not recommend a single BBII for a loud rock band.
 
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I'm not playing funk or even a lot of clean bass, but I do play with my bass tone and pups wide open. As long as fuzz and high notes articulate well enough on the Super Twin, I think it will be just fine. Think Pumpkins/STP/The Cure/Peter Hook. That's more or less the type of rock songs I'm playing (all original, though!).
 
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Also, I guess I should probably ask, in case I could save a little money...

Is there any competition with another lightweight 2x12 cab?

Most things I've read seem to indicate no, but there aren't really a lot of great demos on the youtubes.
 
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Other 2X12's? The Bergantino stuff is really good. I had a CN212 before my Big Baby II's and it was stellar, I just wanted to get a pair of cabs so I had a backup should something go wrong with one of them. I wanted the one cab to be able to handle most situations if something arose. The BBII does that in stride.

If you use a lot of fuzz I would not bother with a horn. Others may disagree with me, but I essentially stopped using distortion and OD because I did not find the horn sound pleasing at all on the BB2. Certain sounds work well, but others are extremely buzzy and unpleasant (much moreso than other tweeter equipped cabs I've used, like the CN212).

I'd agree with the above about getting two of whatever 1X12 cabs you decide on, or a single 2X12. My band can be really loud and a single BB2 handles just fine in the smaller places but large gigs and outdoors I always grab two. In fact, for some of the outdoor gigs I was using three :)
 
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Great remarks! Thanks, peeps!

I will definitely save a little and skip the horn. Super Twin, it is!

I haven't yet been in... maybe one outdoor situation where I wasn't mic'ed up and I felt like I wasn't as loud as I wanted to be. That was with a MB Ninja through the same PVH 1516. I know the difference between the Quilter BB and Ninja (massive... at least 50% nastier/louder than the Ninja), so fairly certain I won't be any quieter, at the very least.

*tangent...

Srsly... Here is my amp evolution:

Fender Rumble > Mark Bass Ninja > Quilter Bass Block 800

If there is a better solid state bass amp than the Quilter, I wanna know about it, too. I have no interest in tube amps. I like lightweight and a lot of power. I don't need amp character. I have quality bass guitars and pretty much never have a dry signal. Anyway, the BB is badass and much recommend. Relatively cheap, too. I recently picked up an actual guitar (*gasp*) and sniped a Tone Block 200 off Reverb, and my guitarist uses one, too.

(No, I don't work for Quilter. Just gushing a little.)
 
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stelles75 said:
Great remarks! Thanks, peeps!

I will definitely save a little and skip the horn. Super Twin, it is!

I haven't yet been in... maybe one outdoor situation where I wasn't mic'ed up and I felt like I wasn't as loud as I wanted to be. That was with a MB Ninja through the same PVH 1516. I know the difference between the Quilter BB and Ninja (massive... at least 50% nastier/louder than the Ninja), so fairly certain I won't be any quieter, at the very least.

*tangent...

Srsly... Here is my amp evolution:

Fender Rumble > Mark Bass Ninja > Quilter Bass Block 800

If there is a better solid state bass amp than the Quilter, I wanna know about it, too. I have no interest in tube amps. I like lightweight and a lot of power. I don't need amp character. I have quality bass guitars and pretty much never have a dry signal. Anyway, the BB is badass and much recommend. Relatively cheap, too. I recently picked up an actual guitar (*gasp*) and sniped a Tone Block 200 off Reverb, and my guitarist uses one, too.

(No, I don't work for Quilter. Just gushing a little.)
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"clean up in aisle 6, we have a gusher on aisle 6 .... " ;)
 
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stelles75 said:
Great remarks! Thanks, peeps!

I will definitely save a little and skip the horn. Super Twin, it is!

I haven't yet been in... maybe one outdoor situation where I wasn't mic'ed up and I felt like I wasn't as loud as I wanted to be. That was with a MB Ninja through the same PVH 1516. I know the difference between the Quilter BB and Ninja (massive... at least 50% nastier/louder than the Ninja), so fairly certain I won't be any quieter, at the very least.

*tangent...

Srsly... Here is my amp evolution:

Fender Rumble > Mark Bass Ninja > Quilter Bass Block 800

If there is a better solid state bass amp than the Quilter, I wanna know about it, too. I have no interest in tube amps. I like lightweight and a lot of power. I don't need amp character. I have quality bass guitars and pretty much never have a dry signal. Anyway, the BB is badass and much recommend. Relatively cheap, too. I recently picked up an actual guitar (*gasp*) and sniped a Tone Block 200 off Reverb, and my guitarist uses one, too.

(No, I don't work for Quilter. Just gushing a little.)
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Quilter sure makes great stuff. They've nailed it with their solid state amps!
 
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stelles75 said:
Great remarks! Thanks, peeps!

I will definitely save a little and skip the horn. Super Twin, it is!

I haven't yet been in... maybe one outdoor situation where I wasn't mic'ed up and I felt like I wasn't as loud as I wanted to be. That was with a MB Ninja through the same PVH 1516. I know the difference between the Quilter BB and Ninja (massive... at least 50% nastier/louder than the Ninja), so fairly certain I won't be any quieter, at the very least.

*tangent...

Srsly... Here is my amp evolution:

Fender Rumble > Mark Bass Ninja > Quilter Bass Block 800

If there is a better solid state bass amp than the Quilter, I wanna know about it, too. I have no interest in tube amps. I like lightweight and a lot of power. I don't need amp character. I have quality bass guitars and pretty much never have a dry signal. Anyway, the BB is badass and much recommend. Relatively cheap, too. I recently picked up an actual guitar (*gasp*) and sniped a Tone Block 200 off Reverb, and my guitarist uses one, too.

(No, I don't work for Quilter. Just gushing a little.)
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Liking my Genzler stuff. Had a bass gtg a couple years ago and among the many amps was a quilter a mark bass floor monitor amp and a Marshall tube amp - the Marshall was pure filth and I mean that in a good way but for tone snd clarity - consensus went to the genzler. The quilter is an excellent amp - along with the Mesa subways and the berg stuff you can’t go wrong.

Using distortion and still want articulate high end without the fizz?

Genzler BA cabs. Paper mid/high drivers in an array for better dispersion and smoother high end.

might be right up your alley. Very happy with my 2x Ba12-3 cabs.

worth a look.
 
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