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"Bass Princess" T-Shirts

Bruce Lindfield said:
Well it's that kind of attitude that alienates most females and is a big part of the reason why there aren't more around here! :(

Speaking of which, I badly miss Gia and Tifa! Has any heard from are talked to them lately? I pm'ed both of them along with many others after the Tubes deal, but haven't head from them since.
 
Bruce Lindfield said:
Well it's that kind of attitude that alienates most females and is a big part of the reason why there aren't more around here! :(
I respect your opinion, Bruce, but I honestly have no idea how you pulled it from what I said. I never said women should wear a shirt designed to appeal top them, I said it should be available. Your point of view seems to indicate that we should reduce the number of choices for women bassists and make them dress in clothes that males generally prefer. Who's supressing who?

I know that's not your intent, but that's exactly how you twisted my intent.

Mike
 
Well you must feel guilty about something you said, as I was replying to the Ombudsman, when I wrote that!! ;)

In my experience, all the female bass players I've met want to be treated no differently from anybody else - they like music and bass - that's why they do it - and the last thing they want is be seen as some kind of sex-object! :(
 
Not to stereotype or anything, but a female, from real-deal experiences I've witnessed (I've actually been outside, away from a computer and all that weird stuff), would be more apt to wear something that says "princess" on it. Hell, my 10 year old daugther has 2 shirts that I can think of that say just that. And she picked them. Some of her friends have them too. gasp, it's a conspiracy.


;)

What does the Quintar look like?!?
 
Mon Rominee said:
Not to stereotype or anything, but a female, from real-deal experiences I've witnessed (I've actually been outside, away from a computer and all that weird stuff), would be more apt to wear something that says "princess" on it. Hell, my 10 year old daugther has 2 shirts that I can think of that say just that. And she picked them. Some of her friends have them too. gasp, it's a conspiracy.


;)

What does the Quintar look like?!?

Not EVERY female. As I said before, as a 61 year old woman, I'd look funny in something that said pricess. Now if it said "BASS QUEEN" or the gender-neutral "BASS ROYALTY." ;)
 
Bruce Lindfield said:
Well you must feel guilty about something you said, as I was replying to the Ombudsman, when I wrote that!! ;)

In my experience, all the female bass players I've met want to be treated no differently from anybody else - they like music and bass - that's why they do it - and the last thing they want is be seen as some kind of sex-object! :(
God forbid that women exist that actually want to be feminine. I dig feminism -- equal rights and all that stuff -- but I never understood it when some women wanted to take it so far as to eliminate the differences between male and female. It's supposed to be about equal rights, right? Supposed to be about, you know, making your own decisions? The "women should never be sex objects," or the "you should never think of a woman as sexy, because that's demeaning her" is the kind of ass-backwards thinking that I just do not understand. A woman who wants to be seen in a fitted shirt should be able to do as she pleases, just as a woman who wants to be seen in massive wool sweaters cut for men should be able to do as she pleases.

To say that offering feminine clothes to female teenagers (not many older females -- 25+ -- would really dig the "princess" deal, just look at Boplicity) is patronising or in any way sexist is, frankly, dumb, and I'm sorry Bruce, but I think you'd better think twice before speaking for the women on TB. As a 17 year old male, I couldn't even begin to count the number of girls at my school parading around shirts or pants with emblems like "princess" or "cute."

PS: Also, aren't a couple of the (very) few girls on here really feminine anyway? Gia and Tifa aren't exactly gallavanting around in ponchos and waders hoping that no one will discover they're girls. I can see these things selling pretty decently, considering the demographic of female bassists is rather small.
 
Nothing wrong with "girlie" clothes. I mean, poop, my wife wears "girlie" stuff. I see other women nearly every day wearing such "girlie" clothing. Sorry, but I don't get the "outrage" over this.


Anyway, back on topic, yeah, the Qintar. Hook him up with one of these please, thanks!

Regards,
"Caffeinated Bunny"
 
Matt Till said:
The only problem I see with that... there are like 3 girls on this forum. If they all bought one, and mike money bought one... that means you'd only sell like... 7 shirts.

lawl.

I haven't had a proper look yet, I'll go and have a perusal now. I'm not a pink girly girl but they look pretty cool - I guess its just another choice. Im not offended in any way.

Personally I'd like a khaki green T :D

Aaron said:
Gia and Tifa aren't exactly gallavanting around in ponchos and waders hoping that no one will discover they're girls.

Oh crap. *quickly takes off poncho and waders*
 
Matt Till said:
Aaron: Bruce wasn't talking about the shirts. But it's true, a lot of the times bands request to have female bassists because they are attractive, not talented.
When I saw the ad, it jarred a bit with me - but I thought it was "patronising" to women, rather than sexist...?

So it is assuming that just because of your gender you aren't going to be happy with the standard TB T-shirts and that you need something a bit "girlier" !

I wore my TB T-shirts last week at Jazz Summer School and one of the (female) Bass Tutors commented and said she would really like one exactly like that and I imagine she would have been rather insulted if I had said - no, you need a pink one that says "Bass Princess" .....
He was indeed talking about the shirts -- I was responding to his posts in this thread in general, not just the one I quoted...probably should've actually mentioned that.
 

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