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Bass Question. OMG, I feel like a newbie!!

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Fleece3 said:
OK, Let's phase it that way. I still have the question.

"What is the difference between a Squier Vintage Modified 70's Jazz Bass and a Squier Classic Vibe 70's Jazz Bass?!!!"
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That's an easier question to answer. You can find the specs here:

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(I could only find the specs for the lefty, but apart from the orientation, they're the same)

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That said, specs alone are only part of the answer, as you won't learn exactly how those specs affect performance. There will also be as many opinions on that as there are users on Talkbass. As you will have discovered by now, it's not always simple to get a straight answer to a straight question here, but that is partly due to the fact that there are often so many variables to consider that asking a question in such a way as to get a clear and simple answer requires a little practice. Took me a year or two to get the hang of it. :)
 
#22
Fleece3 said:
OK, Let's phase it that way. I still have the question.

"What is the difference between a Squier Vintage Modified 70's Jazz Bass and a Squier Classic Vibe 70's Jazz Bass?!!!"
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The new Classic Vibe series is built in (probably) the same factory as the VM series (Indonesia). The old ones were built in China I believe.
The new CV's look like they have the same hardware and pickups as the VM series. The CV 70's, though, has proper 70's jazz pickup spacing, the VM has 60's jazz pickup spacing. The CV 70's also has a proper 70's-style "Jazz Bass" logo and string retainer buttons on the headstock rather than the single bar-type retainer as on the VM (at least on the 5-string)
That being said, I very much enjoy my VM Jazz V, I'd really like to get one of the new CV's.
 
#23
Fleece3 said:
No, not planning to buy one. I just want to know what the "MODS" are.
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It can vary from model to model and year to year so you'd need to look at the specs for a specific model to know for sure.

For example, the VM Jaguar bass is a Jag body with V/V/Tone/Bass boost controls, an onboard active bass boost circuit, and a PJ pickup complement.

Compared to a MIA or MIJ Jaguar Bass its so different you could argue it's a Jag Bass in name and body shape only.
 
#24
Fleece3 said:
OK, Let's phase it that way. I still have the question.

"What is the difference between a Squier Vintage Modified 70's Jazz Bass and a Squier Classic Vibe 70's Jazz Bass?!!!"
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Did you not read what I posted? I layed it out pretty clearly. Maybe pay attention this time? The VM series takes classic designs and mods them. The Classic Vibe Series stays true to the original designs. In this case, the VM 70s bass features a modern bridge, modern tuners and new Fender designed pickups that give it a modern sound. Also, just look at the knobs on it, those aren't traditional Jazz Bass knobs. So those are you MODS. The Classic Vibe 70s Bass has a vintage styled bridge, vintage styled tuners and the pickups are more vintage voiced with 70s spacing. Also, it has traditional Jazz Bass knobs with nickel plated hardware and it looks just like a 70s Jazz Bass.
 
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Fleece3 said:
This thread has gone EXACTLY where I did not want it to go. A "this one is better than one" discussion. I was just asking the technical differences. This one uses these pickups, that one is passive, this one use a <whatever> pre-amp (if any). That sort of thing.
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Making the effort to go to the manufacturer site might be useful. I bet you can even find this info on sweetwater.
 
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Fleece3 said:
I will check that out. I am trying to learn, or take a deeper dive into, the bass as an instrument. WHY do basses sound the way they sound. Why certain pickups looks the same but sound VERY different, if a certain pre-amp is better suited for thumping, why? ETC. Any and all resources are appreciated.
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After chastising others for going off topic on your original question, it seems like you are now doing the same.
 
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For someone who admits to being a newbie you're rather impatient and rude to people trying to help. Everything you want to know can be found on the internet without ever posting a question on a forum. I suggest you go that route since you seem to be incapable of being polite.
 
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Zen Ho said:
For someone who admits to being a newbie you're rather impatient and rude to people trying to help. Everything you want to know can be found on the internet without ever posting a question on a forum. I suggest you go that route since you seem to be incapable of being polite.
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WOW! WHAT!! I said I FEEL like a newbie asking this question. I didn't say I WAS a newbie. I have a 87 Stingray, I bought it new in 87 from Manny's Music in NYC. Nor did I say anything rude or imply anyone was rude. I said, without getting into the "don't get this bass, get this one" type back and forth, I have a TECHNICAL question. It is fair to say, "you can find this info elsewhere". I thought I would ask the question of fellow bass players. I THOUGHT they may say something like "the mod bass has a <whatever coil> pickup, I find that it gives you better <whatever>". You can't read that in a spec sheet. Isn't the exchange of info like that the advantage of being in a forum like this. What did you read that you consider rude? I didn't call anyone out, I didn't reject any reply. NOTHING!!! However, that being said, might I suggest, in the future....Get the decaf!!!!!!

I am sure you will try to find my next question to be rude as well. However, it is just meant to elicit a thoughtful, rather than a knee jerk, response.

READY?????

3, 2, 1..........
 
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Let's say you have a dual pickup bass (neck and bridge) would you prefer the controls to be....

1) Two separate volume knobs (my Spector has this).

2) One master volume, and a blend or balance knob (my Ibanez has this).

3) Doesn't matter

Whatever your choice, can you tell me why?
 
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Fleece3 said:
Let's say you have a dual pickup bass (neck and bridge) would you prefer the controls to be....

1) Two separate volume knobs (my Spector has this).

2) One master volume, and a blend or balance knob (my Ibanez has this).

3) Doesn't matter

Whatever your choice, can you tell me why?
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Lol I'm not the only one who said you're rude. No need for yet another outburst. Also I reported your pm.

Now, to address what you said in your rant,

1) You were/are completely acting like a noob (Squier Jazz Bass), so you should forgive me for thinking you're one.

2) You asked for spec sheet info, then get all riled up, then asked for opinions. Again, see above, I'm not the only one who has trouble parsing your statements.
 
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Wow.

Just wow.

The usual suggestion here is "go to a music store, ask to play a CV, a VM, and an Affinity, and listen to how the pickups sound different," but I can see we're past that. Beyond that, the others are right: your specs can be found on manufacturers' sites. Anything beyond those specs is just guessing.

Good luck, OP.
 
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Picton said:
Wow.

Just wow.

The usual suggestion here is "go to a music store, ask to play a CV, a VM, and an Affinity, and listen to how the pickups sound different," but I can see we're past that. Beyond that, the others are right: your specs can be found on manufacturers' sites. Anything beyond those specs is just guessing.

Good luck, OP.
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Normally, that would have been my suggestion. Recent I was part of a Jazz seminar for a high school (I won't mention the city or state), After the session, a student (Bass) approach me. Two minutes into talking he said it was the first time he had seen a 5 string in person. REALLY!!! His town had 1 music store. And they didn't carry Musicman, Spector, Sire and a few others. And if they didn't have he hadn't/couldn't play in. HE, and people like him, is the reason why I asked, the question that I asked. Also why I asked that we didn't get into a "this bass sucks, get this one instead, type answer". I wanted to kinda steer him into what to look for as well as what he could expect (can't find that on a spec sheet. You have to either play it or rely on word of mouth). Everybody is not as lucky as some of us. Since I live in NYC, I can play just about any bass within 1 hr of having the desire to do so (I mean, Bootsy let me play his SpaceBass for about 10 seconds! He was staying at the hotel where I work). However, for people like this student, the first time he plays said bass will be after he ordered it. Usually online based upon something they read on a site like this, or in a magazine. If I had known where the question would lead to, I would have just gotten into the van and ignored him. Not only did I not do that, I sent him a 5 string that I had, that was collecting dust, with two sets of strings (and I didn't get either for free). He got an Ibanez GIO that I had. That is why, if you do a quick search, you will find posts by me inquiring about the cheapest way to ship a bass. But WOW. The backlash was off the chain!! I was trying to illicit insights, not specs. If a kid, or anyone else, ask me something in the future, now I know this answer. "Go read a spec sheet, cause that is a stupid/newbie question" BTW, PEACE OUT!!
 

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