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Bass sounds a bit weak in Sire

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Vegeta Alten, Jun 29, 2020 at 3:26 PM.


  1. Vegeta Alten

    Vegeta Alten

    Jun 12, 2020
    I bought a new Sire Marcus Miller V7. The guitar is good and I love playing it. But the only concern is that the overall volume seem to be low compared to other basses which ideally shouldn't be the scenario since they have active/passive switchable preamp

    Any suggestions to rectify it ? Would adjusting trim pot cause any impact ?
     
  2. If the bass is the same volume when active OR passive, leave it like it is.
     
  3. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    Are you sure that you completely understand how to operate the preamp? It should be louder in active mode. Check if your batteries are good too.
     
  4. Matty Koff

    Matty Koff

    Aug 21, 2014
    Tennessee
    If your EQ is flat, the active/passive should be about equal in volume. When you start boosting EQ that will be different. If anything, if you have a certain EQ setting you like, I'd imagine you'd use the trim switch to lower the pre-amp volume to be even with your passive tone.
     
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  5. Vegeta Alten

    Vegeta Alten

    Jun 12, 2020
    I did check them and they are good. Sire should be a very powerful bass but when I compare the overall volume of the active preamp of MM v7 with other bass guitars, it sounds to be a bit low. Not sure why. The tone quality is good but the overall volume seem to be less. I would have to boost my amp to max to get more sound which isn't the case with other basses. When I switch it to passive, we could see a huge drop in overall volume.
     
  6. Matty Koff

    Matty Koff

    Aug 21, 2014
    Tennessee
    Basses are not equal in output. Some have hotter signals than others, with less output signal from the bass you can get away with more input gain/master volume at the amp. I have a passive P-bass that runs pretty hot, and I had a passive J that was pretty quiet comparatively.

    Unless it's just not loud enough when you up the volume on your amp it shouldn't be a concern. Boosting the EQ on my Sire P7 can have it pretty loud though.
     
  7. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    The V7 has single coils which may not he as high output as soap bar or humbucking pickups on other basses.
     
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  8. Vegeta Alten

    Vegeta Alten

    Jun 12, 2020
    So there is no need for me to adjust the trim pots right ? Basically if I understand correctly, both the active when set to flat and passive mode should have equal volume. Please correct me if I'm incorrect. This is the first time I'm using a bass with active and passive switch.
     
  9. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    The trim pots are there for you to set as you see fit. Adjust them and see if you like things better.
     
  10. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
    Raise the pickups?
     
  11. Matty Koff

    Matty Koff

    Aug 21, 2014
    Tennessee
    It's really a matter of personal preference. The preamp is your oyster. You can opt for a hotter signal with flat EQ, you can boost/cut certain frequencies and use the trim switch to even the volume out with your passive signal, so if you choose to switch between the two you aren't having to dance around volume levels with your amp or interface.

    By default, I'm pretty sure Sire tends to send them out so that your flat active signal is the same as your passive signal.. and you can get a louder volume by boosting EQ's while the bass is set to active. Or, if you say boost lows and low mids way high for a certain tone, but want to even it out, you can lower the trim switch so that your desired eq matches the volume of your passive signal while keeping the tone you aim for with the active EQ
     
  12. Vegeta Alten

    Vegeta Alten

    Jun 12, 2020
    Thank you for your detailed explanation :thumbsup:
     
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  13. Matty Koff

    Matty Koff

    Aug 21, 2014
    Tennessee
    Enjoy your new bass. The Sire's pre-amp is a beast.
     
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  14. BB Brian

    BB Brian

    Apr 15, 2020
    West Texas
    My first question was going to be about pickup height.
     
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  15. Vegeta Alten

    Vegeta Alten

    Jun 12, 2020
    Nope haven't raised it up. It's in the same way how I got it
     
  16. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
    The closer the pickup is to the strings, the louder it is. Sometimes for example when you have a two pickup bass, one pickup has to be closer to the strings for the same loudness.
     
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  17. BB Brian

    BB Brian

    Apr 15, 2020
    West Texas
    My rule of thumb for string height at the pickups is 1/8" on the bass side and about 3/32" on the treble side. I shouldn't say my rule of thumb as I have heard this from other people, but it works for me.
     
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  18. Vegeta Alten

    Vegeta Alten

    Jun 12, 2020
    Would give it a try and see :)
     
  19. eastcoasteddie

    eastcoasteddie Supporting Member

    There is another thread here with a similar issue. In that thread, it is mentioned to try increasing the gain on the preamp vis the blue cube-shaped trim pot.

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 power doubt.
     
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  20. MYLOWFREQ

    MYLOWFREQ Supporting Member

    May 13, 2011
    New York
    I think it's a good thing if the passive volume and active volume is even when the EQ is set flat.
     
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